Message from @P14
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The "natural order" is not necessarily something good in itself. It just needs to be taken into account when building a society. Otherwise it's a logical fallacy.
Following the natural order does not sound good to me in that regard.
Read the myth of the 20th century, rosenberg states the mixing of europeam blood caused the fall of the romans, also there was race laws in rome
And I've stated plenty of arguments. None of which you've even touched on. You just post more iron march bs that has no actual basis in reality or history
And I've read it
The history of fascism is racial, rome had racial hierarchy according to rosenberg
Correlation =/= Causation
In regards to the romans
So the founder of modern fascism declared it racial, its predecessor was racial, what more do you want
He didn't declare it racial from the statements you have given me
If he meant to do that, he could have said it more clearly
Mussolini was concerned with the low birth rates of the white race in contrast to the African and Asian races. In 1928 he noted the high birth-rate of blacks in the United States, and that they had surpassed the population of whites in certain areas, such as Harlem in New York City. He described their greater racial consciousness in comparison with American whites as contributing to their growing strength.
You still haven't shown that it's part of fascism, only that it's part of Mussolinis thinking
Multiracial authoritarianism is communism lad
The only possible argument you could make is saying that ideologies evolve.
I think all of you are forgetting the basic fact that collectivism as a whole is cancer and that the Nazi's views on race were barely scientific and very misconceived.
^christcuck is am anti racist
where did i ever say i did not believe in different races?
Actually the nazis in the third Reich were leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of the world in the realm of science and eugenics
is the Nationalist Socialist "race realism" the only true one? kind of sounds like the "settled science" argument.
@Thomas Morrow thats why i said their views were very misconceived.
You can be a race realist without being a national socialist. I'm a national socialist because I believe it to be the best system
You also said they were barely scientific- which I contest
yes, with what methods and knowledge we have now in comparison to theirs they were very pseudoscientific.
In what way?
Mengele was a genius
they did what a good amount of modern day "scientists" do, they misconstrued data, came up with ridiculous terms and classifications, etc.
mengele was sadist retard.
You're mistaken, sir. Given time they'd be way ahead of where we are now.
They were able to discover more because there was less restrictions. You don't have to like him but he was a genius
yes, i think that is a possibility as well, the only problem here is that there are still idiots out there who believe in science from 70+ years ago and see it as "settled", they are unwilling to except any new scientific discoveries that have come since.
Sometimes the myth is greater than the actual
I'd agree to an extent. What way are you meaning in this context? @Belisarius
@chris#0919 dang, you sound just like the leftists.
Like the myth of christ (lol im joking lad)
Not myth as incorrect, myth as in occultism
@Thomas Morrow i mean in the sense that there has been a great deal of progress in the study of ethnicity, past migrations, peoples and time periods. we know a great deal more now than the german scientists of the 1930-40's did. refusing any other kind of science that comes after what the germans knew then is pretty foolish.