Message from @AIYAHHHHH
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reposting here so it doesnt get buried
an issue that's important to any kind of start-up society is ensuring its long-term sovereignty and the transfer of values from generation to generation, has there been any discussion so far on this particular topic?
well thats pretty much a given
not really, realize that one of the things i think the core here holds to is to not get too far off into deep what-ifs, because its easy to masturbate to the future instead of using that time to act in the now
its one thing to say 'lets not forget our fathers faces' and another to spend a month codifying something for a place and time that dont yet exist
once again, not a monolith, etc etc
yeah i agree with that
i see myself right now as on a path, with where i am right now at one end, and the terminating point being land i own in an enviroment i crave, with my brothers to hand
anything that causes me to deviate or waste time i could be using to walk that path is dangerous
I think there are many important lessons that used to be passed on from generation to generation that are now lost in many modern people, i thought thats what hes referring to
let me give it some context
an underrated criticism of communism in my opinion is that in a scenario where the "utopia" is reached, newer generations will not grow up in the same society their ancestors who established this system did; they will possess neither the core values nor the experience upon which the society was founded, and will be more vulnerable to... "dogmatic heresies", if ya catch my drift.
they didnt earn the utopia, they were born into it, they dont know the struggle of the proles vs the bourgie
right?
oh yeah, thats basically the common problem behin the rise and fall of many past civilizations
mhm
that's my issue here
i don't know what we can do other than learn from past mistakes
it's an interesting topic for discussion.
yeah, i feel like in the near future, say, the next hundred years or so, a field trip to detroit every generation will suffice
'behold the smouldering ruin that liberal values and false equality bring'
i do like the point though, it is food for thought
we would have to consistently maintain a certain kind of culture that discourages that types of behavior and attitudes that eventually bring societies down, and usully thats done through church. But there's probably no foolproof solution, people have always talked about the fall of the Roman empire and how that could happen to America, yet nobody is serious about averting the same type of fate
this is the human condition, everyone worries about their own loaf of bread, regardless of station, the only difference is the size and quality of the loaf
i see it as a community issue first and foremost, strong bones for a strong body
the good news is that there's always some portion of society that doesn't fall for the progressive meme and is will to prepare for a difficult future
hard men for hard times
gentlemen, it has been a pleasure, im going to clock out for the evening, gotta pay the man in the morning
cya
Has anyone considered the Burnham Master Plan?
Shame it didn't work out
Some notes I have on government roles in a free society
- The preservation of freedom requires the elimination of concentrations of power to the fullest possible extent and the dispersal and distribution of whatever power cannot be eliminated - a system of checks and balances.
- There are some matters in which proportional representation is impossible thus we must discuss, argue and vote. But having made a decision there must be conformity. If the use of resources for such indivisible cases becomes necessary then we must employ political channels to reconcile the differences.
- Unfortunately the use of political channels tends to strain the social cohesion essential for a stable society. The strain is least if agreement for joint action need be reached only on a limited range of issues on which people in any event have common views. Every extension of the range of issues for which explicit agreement is sought strains further the delicate threads that hold society together. If it goes so far as to touch an issue on which men feel deeply yet differently, it may well disrupt the society.
- Fundamental differences in basic values can seldom if ever be resolved at the ballot box; ultimately they can only be decided, by conflict.
- The widespread use of the market reduces the strain on the social fabric by rendering conformity unnecessary with respect to any activities it encompasses. The wider the range of activities covered by the market, the fewer are the issues on which explicitly political decisions are required and hence on which it is necessary to achieve agreement. In turn, the fewer the issues on which agreement is necessary, the greater is the likelihood of getting agreement while maintaining a free society.
- Society requires that its members agree on the general conditions that will govern relations among them. Enforcing compliance on the accepted rules and interpreting arbitrary situations.
- Rules cannot prevail unless most participants conform to them most of the time but there can’t be a reliance on the conformity.