Message from @thatdudeiscool
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and there's also the aesthetics of it
that's why my preferred system is timber frame
aesthetics to me really arent a virtue
but you cant build timber frame with out SIPS and they arent local made
well then it's just a question of what you value
I've been researching how one might be able to build it without sips
it can be done
our ancestors did it for hundreds of years
we have better methods and materials for the in-fill these days
yeah exactly i value practicality...a stick frame your children could build at 15 ...a log home well maybe after a decades of learning they could pull one off half assed
and lime plaster and lath is more labor intensive, but it produces beautiful, durable results
any surface finish wont matter if its not airsealed etc. plaster can turn to shit really fast
yeah I don't want to live in a bland box that's insulated with fiberglass batting
but that's just my own personal taste
well do you live in one now
haha touche
yes I do
im curious because where does this distaste come from
I don't really like it though
im not mad you dont see it the way i do
oh I'm not mad either... it doesn't have to be a flame war
I think modern building is great.. I'm glad there are people out there who are pushing the technological boundaries to provide effective, affordable housing for most people
but when I dream big, I don't reach for what's ordinary
maximizing profits....but i dont think that we should hold the house as an ideal where it should be more of creating a home no matter the circumstances
I like the idea of learning the ancient methods that worked for centuries, that were achievable with very primitive technology, and then applying modern building science knowledge to those older methods
do you follow the work of Joe Lstiburek?
i dont want to get preachy but the housing market and the destruction of the family has always been done for ones own ideal and benefit not that of the coming generations....i have no idea who joe is can i get a quick rundown
yeah he's a civil engineer and building scientist who specializes in ventilation, mositure control, and air quality
and I agree 100% dude
the focus should be on family and home making
that's way more important than the way you put your sticks together
I'm 30 and I already have 4 kids
lol
another good one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkfAcWpOYAA
yeah i mean we should be kicking our kids out at like 18 or whatever but not into a cold uncaring world but into a home that they made and i just see that as basic but nice and simple ...most cannot create a timber frame or log and if they do id be worried that they made it majorly wrong and it wuold fail prematurely...other than that i cant really help if you need tips on building practices im here
I might just go with something more conventional in the end
but I do plan on attending workshops and practicing before I build my home
I'd rather have a smaller home that I build correctly with my own hands than a larger home built conventionally. If I'm going to build it conventionally I'd rather hire people out to do it
they have more experience and could probably do a better job