yeah his method is really complex

logs also deteriorate at the same rate if im not mistaken

but it ends up looking like a work of art... like the trees grew together into a house

they do when they touch and capture water in between the nooks and crannies

another point against log construction

Sometimes I get larpy tho... and I think about what kind of house you could build if you didn't have access to all these modern materials... like if it's just the individual craftsmen in the village working on it

if you really love wood and trees i dont believe in cutting a ton of them down for a house ...i dont really know about log construction at all but new methods are so easy and sustainable and habitable it makes me proud of my ignorance

and there's also the aesthetics of it

that's why my preferred system is timber frame

aesthetics to me really arent a virtue

but you cant build timber frame with out SIPS and they arent local made

well then it's just a question of what you value

I've been researching how one might be able to build it without sips

it can be done

our ancestors did it for hundreds of years

we have better methods and materials for the in-fill these days

yeah exactly i value practicality...a stick frame your children could build at 15 ...a log home well maybe after a decades of learning they could pull one off half assed

and lime plaster and lath is more labor intensive, but it produces beautiful, durable results

any surface finish wont matter if its not airsealed etc. plaster can turn to shit really fast

yeah I don't want to live in a bland box that's insulated with fiberglass batting

but that's just my own personal taste

well do you live in one now

haha touche

yes I do

im curious because where does this distaste come from

I don't really like it though

im not mad you dont see it the way i do

i really dont care there are more of you on the board than of me

oh I'm not mad either... it doesn't have to be a flame war

I think modern building is great.. I'm glad there are people out there who are pushing the technological boundaries to provide effective, affordable housing for most people

but when I dream big, I don't reach for what's ordinary

maximizing profits....but i dont think that we should hold the house as an ideal where it should be more of creating a home no matter the circumstances

I like the idea of learning the ancient methods that worked for centuries, that were achievable with very primitive technology, and then applying modern building science knowledge to those older methods

do you follow the work of Joe Lstiburek?

i dont want to get preachy but the housing market and the destruction of the family has always been done for ones own ideal and benefit not that of the coming generations....i have no idea who joe is can i get a quick rundown

yeah he's a civil engineer and building scientist who specializes in ventilation, mositure control, and air quality

and I agree 100% dude

the focus should be on family and home making

that's way more important than the way you put your sticks together

I'm 30 and I already have 4 kids

lol