then how do mormons do it?

They trade/service members within their community and try to be as non-reliant on outside providers as possible

I can't figure out a pretty flag 😦

yeah were going to avoid ever using the financial system, and maybe even use precious metals for trade

Mormons aren't just white, but they have a racist stereotype associated with their religion's history, so I guess black people are less interested in converting

As for the mormons, they have their fair share of shit skins, which is what we are trying to avoid. The reason why people don't join the mormons is due to the fact that A. Most people are put off by the ideas of mormons anyways, B. They don't have tight borders as to keep undesirables out, as everyone is a potential Mormon convert

While also having companies for holdings and minimum tithes paid in currency to help the community with said finances if need be

Maybe green on lightbrown, as in we're setting the seed in the dirt 🤔

If we develop our own currency it could be something simple, like using copper/silver/gold based coins

well we are going to avoid the mistakes of Mormons then

And @Orchid , this is not me hating on or trying to take down your project. It's a wonderful notion and I would join it in a heart beat if flushed out and feasible. It is just sad to see so many of these things fail in the early stages due to too high expectations and too much focus on the LARP elements like Flags and War

@Zennex17 The way I see it, we can take our time and do it right. The amount of people who come out to show interest means when it is established we'll have a very large group of people to work with

i know, the important thing is that we do not underestimate the challenge of what were doing

Or crypto, if you're willing to have some limited form of electricity, most people avoid crypto currencies anyway, so it could be very exclusive

and if you have any ideas on how to avert potential problems we want to hear them

Welcome

@Zul Perhaps. On the other hand, perhaps motivation and emotional fervor for the project putters out due to lack of progress and coordination. That's how the rest have gone. I hope that this one can be different

@Orchid I won't profess to have all the answers, but I definitely have some guiding tips that might steer us in the right direction. I'd love to talk more about them later, perhaps over voice chat

@Zennex17 Members should operate from the get go as being in it for the long haul. Those whose motivation is tied to hype may want to simply wait until recruiting happens later on. Otherwise individually the regular progress will be with personal development while we flush out the plans to establish this plan properly

It's apparent that demand for this kind of thing is very high, so even if our core group who brings this communities to reality starts out small. We'll have pool to choose from later down the road

Sure, try and recruit the general masses with that, see how it goes. You're 100% correct, this isn't an overnight fun time activity. However, consistency and dedication isn't something that most people, including /pol/ users, are known for

yeah many such projects fail, but its the survival of the fittest i guess

No, you're not competing against each other to see who wins. You're seeing who doesn't starve and keel over, and food is extremely scarce

@Zennex17 Most people are depressed, confused, I don't fault anyone who'd want to join when they saw it materialize rather then be here during the planning phase. Hope is lacking and it's our responsibility to create something tangible. I think many of us might be surprised to see just how many normies are miserable with the way things are right now as we are too

What's with that picture? Freemasons?

I agree, many are fraught with sadness and are left without a purpose. Regardless if they realize it or not, they all want, that all need a purpose. Aim to give them that purpose.

The founders of nations/colonies are hard men, we endure the suffering and create something great many benefit from because we have the ability to do so. Exactly, which is why we shouldn't be discouraged by interest levels during the early phases of this

many people will only follow movements that are succeeding, if we can actually put boots on the ground, im certain they will realize we arent just fucking around and will come to us

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Most certainly

But remember this

Those hardy men that make nations, that truly break the mold and make something of themselves. The Great men of our world. They're not us. Not yet. It's not out of our reach, but I doubt any of us can claim to be a "Great" person just yet. It all starts with Self Improvement

@Orchid "yeah i personally beliefe in the notion that hardship breeds strength and weeds out the undesirables"

Hard times create hard men.

@Zennex17 indeed, we have to see who will rise to the occasion

@Zennex17 That's true, but we see the inspiration of past great men to try and give us motivation towards being the best versions of ourselves we can be. In hopes of that version embodying a new generation of great men/founders. We also accept that even if we can't be those great men, we can help those who can be

@Orchid I'd say above all, the best advice that I can give to you, if you truly are serious about this, and not in a LARP-way. Fully commit yourself. With every essence of yourself and every fiber of your being, commit yourself to your goal, and if you truly do all that you can, not even god will deny you.