Message from @Joe
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Right but I don't imagine the government would take too kindly to an independant ethno state emerging from it's backside
theres http://futhark.org/ < these guys aren't about white nationalism, but from what I understand they do live in their own community and preserve auropean traditions
I mean not specifically creating an ethno state but just general attempts at creating some sort of society
theres also http://www.northmen.com/en/about-us/who-where-and-why < I'm not sure exactly what they do other than craft cool looking traditional products, but they also ofcourse care about preserving tradition
I dont know if they have a physical community where they live near each other
wouldnt we be subject to all the tax laws, beaurocracy, policing, etc. of the state and federal government? Not to mention attempts by the HUD to "diversify" the area if it becomes successful?
yes
we arent doing anything illegal so im not really worried about the government
we have no plans to be tax dodgers
I know but it would be in their power and probably their interest to make things as difficult as possible for us
why?
When I innitially found this and read all the material I imagined a community similar to perhaps the mormons or amish
mormons and amish are a good example of someone we can learn from
Because if it was a successful explicitly white community based on preserving traditional european values, it would attract and interest many whites across the country, which would be a problem for the cultural hegemony that the establishment holds
again, i do not see why anyone would give a shit
Maybe youre right.
is the government coming down on the amish?
or mormons?
well if we were discreet enough
No but those groups are very inclusive. Its difficult to enter either of those societies, and theyre not really searching for a constant stream of new members. The impression i get from cascadia is that it would want to attract as many people as possible.
Also I wanted to bring up the concerns in regards to vetting, keeping organized, make sure you have the most viable candidates, if everyone is let in things will fall apart
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well not really, we would look for people who share our values. The amish and mormons allow converst as well as long as they meet rigerous standards. We wouldn't be as strict, but we do have standards
Makes sense.
I would advicate for realistic but still very rigerous standards
As for the vetting, I can't really stop anyone from moving anywhere, but as far as this discord goes, anybody who becomes a problem gets kicked. Beyond that, the act of uprooting your life and commiting to a new, more difficult one is an obstacle enough
@Nikothegreat99 mormons actively try to recruits new Christains
Good point, that in itself is a major dividing factor
Christians**
if someone went to the lengths to subvert the community as far as moving in that be pretty impressive
It's still possible and I don't think it's too difficult to imagine someone who was completly off the scale, who would be willing to go that far
still moving is long term**
in the mean time it's more important to talk about making your own bio diesel or how to make a garden
A big part of what I personally want to do, and many others here as well is homesteading. Make my home sustainable, and learn to craft my own goods by learning some old skills and traditions, much like the Northmen from that link I posted earlier. This discord may be stictly white nationalist, but when we put boots on the ground we can form a group thats more focused on "Europan tradition". That would be something only white people would ever be interested in, and we don't have to attract anyones ire by being overtly racist. It also wouldn't scare away normies.
I once attempted to create my own society, community, on a minecraft server, the idea was founded mostly upon the works of Friedman, the idea of self effeciency and free market, etc. It was an abstract personal project that was meant to be fun, where my friends, people I knew could all hang out together and emulate a more traditional lifestyle type of thing, in doing so we ran across many inevitable problems, problems with currency, power, order, I guess my point is that is seems so duanting a task, perhaps if enough people went out simply did it things would fall in place but before that is done, we need to account for so many things, things that might happen in the future or in the near future, I like to think of it in the way the US founding fathers did
@Joe I have enough experience with people where I could manage a team of people to do farming
im sure most adults could if they're given the knowledge
I used to help my Italian grandmother with her garden, she always kept it maintained until the day she died
I think I would rather make an orchard though since I love fruit so much
Wherever there is opportunity for power or any sort of hierarchy there will arrise power struggles, confrontation with personality, my goal is not to criticize or dissmay anyone but these are my initial thoughts, impressions concerns
yeah sure, and thats something that will have to be dealt with over time