Message from @Joe

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2017-10-17 00:25:05 UTC  

:^)

2017-10-17 00:25:25 UTC  

I don't really know of many, I've been looking around but similar groups are hard to find

2017-10-17 00:25:45 UTC  

Right but I don't imagine the government would take too kindly to an independant ethno state emerging from it's backside

2017-10-17 00:26:06 UTC  

theres http://futhark.org/ < these guys aren't about white nationalism, but from what I understand they do live in their own community and preserve auropean traditions

2017-10-17 00:26:45 UTC  

I mean not specifically creating an ethno state but just general attempts at creating some sort of society

2017-10-17 00:27:04 UTC  

theres also http://www.northmen.com/en/about-us/who-where-and-why < I'm not sure exactly what they do other than craft cool looking traditional products, but they also ofcourse care about preserving tradition

2017-10-17 00:27:23 UTC  

I dont know if they have a physical community where they live near each other

2017-10-17 00:27:44 UTC  

wouldnt we be subject to all the tax laws, beaurocracy, policing, etc. of the state and federal government? Not to mention attempts by the HUD to "diversify" the area if it becomes successful?

2017-10-17 00:27:50 UTC  

yes

2017-10-17 00:29:13 UTC  

we arent doing anything illegal so im not really worried about the government

2017-10-17 00:29:42 UTC  

we have no plans to be tax dodgers

2017-10-17 00:29:46 UTC  

I know but it would be in their power and probably their interest to make things as difficult as possible for us

2017-10-17 00:29:52 UTC  

why?

2017-10-17 00:30:18 UTC  

When I innitially found this and read all the material I imagined a community similar to perhaps the mormons or amish

2017-10-17 00:30:40 UTC  

mormons and amish are a good example of someone we can learn from

2017-10-17 00:31:12 UTC  

Because if it was a successful explicitly white community based on preserving traditional european values, it would attract and interest many whites across the country, which would be a problem for the cultural hegemony that the establishment holds

2017-10-17 00:31:40 UTC  

again, i do not see why anyone would give a shit

2017-10-17 00:31:52 UTC  

Maybe youre right.

2017-10-17 00:32:00 UTC  

is the government coming down on the amish?

2017-10-17 00:32:07 UTC  

or mormons?

2017-10-17 00:32:16 UTC  

well if we were discreet enough

2017-10-17 00:33:42 UTC  

No but those groups are very inclusive. Its difficult to enter either of those societies, and theyre not really searching for a constant stream of new members. The impression i get from cascadia is that it would want to attract as many people as possible.

2017-10-17 00:34:15 UTC  

Also I wanted to bring up the concerns in regards to vetting, keeping organized, make sure you have the most viable candidates, if everyone is let in things will fall apart

2017-10-17 00:34:34 UTC  

^

2017-10-17 00:35:11 UTC  

well not really, we would look for people who share our values. The amish and mormons allow converst as well as long as they meet rigerous standards. We wouldn't be as strict, but we do have standards

2017-10-17 00:35:36 UTC  

Makes sense.

2017-10-17 00:35:59 UTC  

I would advicate for realistic but still very rigerous standards

2017-10-17 00:36:53 UTC  

As for the vetting, I can't really stop anyone from moving anywhere, but as far as this discord goes, anybody who becomes a problem gets kicked. Beyond that, the act of uprooting your life and commiting to a new, more difficult one is an obstacle enough

2017-10-17 00:37:59 UTC  

@Nikothegreat99 mormons actively try to recruits new Christains

2017-10-17 00:37:59 UTC  

Good point, that in itself is a major dividing factor

2017-10-17 00:38:07 UTC  

Christians**

2017-10-17 00:38:52 UTC  

if someone went to the lengths to subvert the community as far as moving in that be pretty impressive

2017-10-17 00:39:48 UTC  

It's still possible and I don't think it's too difficult to imagine someone who was completly off the scale, who would be willing to go that far

2017-10-17 00:40:47 UTC  

still moving is long term**

2017-10-17 00:41:11 UTC  

in the mean time it's more important to talk about making your own bio diesel or how to make a garden

2017-10-17 00:45:21 UTC  

A big part of what I personally want to do, and many others here as well is homesteading. Make my home sustainable, and learn to craft my own goods by learning some old skills and traditions, much like the Northmen from that link I posted earlier. This discord may be stictly white nationalist, but when we put boots on the ground we can form a group thats more focused on "Europan tradition". That would be something only white people would ever be interested in, and we don't have to attract anyones ire by being overtly racist. It also wouldn't scare away normies.

2017-10-17 00:45:47 UTC  

I once attempted to create my own society, community, on a minecraft server, the idea was founded mostly upon the works of Friedman, the idea of self effeciency and free market, etc. It was an abstract personal project that was meant to be fun, where my friends, people I knew could all hang out together and emulate a more traditional lifestyle type of thing, in doing so we ran across many inevitable problems, problems with currency, power, order, I guess my point is that is seems so duanting a task, perhaps if enough people went out simply did it things would fall in place but before that is done, we need to account for so many things, things that might happen in the future or in the near future, I like to think of it in the way the US founding fathers did

2017-10-17 00:47:50 UTC  

@Joe I have enough experience with people where I could manage a team of people to do farming

2017-10-17 00:48:01 UTC  

im sure most adults could if they're given the knowledge

2017-10-17 00:48:34 UTC  

I used to help my Italian grandmother with her garden, she always kept it maintained until the day she died

2017-10-17 00:49:01 UTC  

I think I would rather make an orchard though since I love fruit so much