Message from @indio007
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@RadRhys you should read that. There is no such thing as manmade global warming
Thx my dude, I’ll read it later today
But because of the meme...
>breitbart lmao
Breitbart isn't a meme. Its a news organization that happened to report on marcos interview.
The meme is that Breitbart is a biased source that gets money from the fossil fuel industry and rarely sources information. It’s like PragerU but marginally better.
CO2 was not claimed to be poisonous, at least not in the way implied.
CO2 increasing plant productivity only when there is a surplus of other resources. What I said about plants closing their stomata for longer still holds very true. I find it ironic that you’re supporting a conclusion gained from satellite telemetry. I would also like to point out the trillion tree campaign, which seeks to plant a trillion trees and is spearheaded by China, India, and Ethiopia.
During the Jurassic and especially the Triassic (Pangea), it is believed that there was a starker contrast between drier inland areas and wetter, river/lake/coastal areas. The prevalence of CO2 is an estimated average over millions of years. The criticism also ignores other factors, such as the sun increasing in intensity over time.
The forests aren’t the lungs of the Earth, but they are the carbon sequesters. As for the actual lungs of the Earth, they are facing habitat loss partly due to a tendency of lower productivity in areas with higher temperatures.
This is a fallacy they’re positing, the effectiveness of H2O as a greenhouse gas has no bearing on whether CO2 is one or not. There’s also the fact that raising temperatures will increase the capacity for air to hold water and increase the energy of water, thus increasing evaporation. This means MORE H2O in the atmosphere.
Another fallacy, climate change having natural motivators has no bearing on whether climate change is or can be anthropogenically motivated. We have no evidence suggesting temperatures have ever increased so quickly in all of recorded history.
“We’ve been here before” is a Nonargument.
They’re trivializing sea level rise by ignoring the fact that this fast of a rise has never been observed in history. Increasing average levels can and will be devestating to areas that don’t have the resources to move like Nigeria or the ability to terraform like the Netherlands.
More aggregious my, they claim that Greenland ice has INCREASED by 112 million km^3, which is completely ridiculous and would cover the entire continent of North America in over 7 miles of ice. I can’t find out where they got this figure anywhere, I can’t even find a single source reporting an increase of ice, land or sea, in Greenland. As for Antarctic (no sourcing is a problem again), this is ignoring (at that point in time) the past 2 years of data, which showed a rapid decrease in ice. https://www.pnas.org/content/116/29/14414
This claim about weather is also unfounded and smacks in the face of data. Here’s an analysis of severe weather events in/near the US (which is the only country that matters 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸) https://nca2014.globalchange.gov/highlights/report-findings/extreme-weather
I have to presume they’re cherry-picking data because they cite 1 source that isn’t even up anymore. I’ve literally a prediction model that underpredicted temperatures sitting in my camera roll.
I’m not interested in the last 3 points for reasons that should be self evident, but speed run. Exaggeration of opposing claim and misuse of data; better medical care; this is literally a repeat.
I apologize for the dump but it’s every point in part 1. If p1 is this bad, I don’t even want to know how bad p2 gets. Dare I even imagine a part 3? *shudder*
And u believe all that?
Nice response
First of all. When a plant has increased CO2, it needs less water.
Increased co2 will make plants more draught tolerant
You dont need a surplus of other resources besides co2 to increase plant productivity.
It can be soley an increase in co2 and the plant will become a super plant (comparably)
They are specifically referring to this study, https://www.pnas.org/content/113/36/10019
If you cut down a forest, unless it is quickly replanted or you control the environment, it will cease to retain its moisture and the presence of chlorophyll necessarily decreases overall.
As I said before, there are more factors. Here is a study talking about another limiting factor: nitrogen. https://www.pnas.org/content/107/45/19368
Not only does man-caused global warming not exist, but it is also the scientific hoax of the century. And 90 leading Italian scientists say so.
https://www.afa.net/the-stand/culture/2019/07/90-scientists-global-warming-is-a-total-hoax/
😂
LOLOLOLOL
I don’t get it, they’re right
Trump stands in the way of good environmental reform
Regional raw data is insufficient
All of them did*
“For at least three decades scientists and activists have been warning that the world is on the verge of a global warming crisis”
https://newspunch.com/12-climate-change-apocalypse-warnings-from-30-years-didnt-happen/
Have y’all never heard of a wave cloud?
They’ve existed long before radio was a thing
have tyou ever seen those beams being sent around on radar. that stuff is pretty weird