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well hungary had civilization despite not speaking afro-asiatic. Plus hungarans weren't very ethnically different from others in the area
@Fidel Castro why dont you understand?
were not saying all civilizations are from the natufians, just that all the african civilizations of any notability are
sorry if i'm misunderstanding you
Europe is predominately indo-european due to the yamnaya expansion
>all african civilizations of any notability
mali empire tho
i used the term notability for a reason
it was notable
mali couldve literally been conquered by any civilized people but their geography made it a pain.
no, not really
it was even in Civ 5
they were tribal people with one guy who came into power, enslaved other tribes in the form of serfdom and dug up a lot salt and gold to then give and trade to the muslims that he himself converted too
Mansa Musa became the richest guy ever
Mali wasn't that impressive it was just had lots of gold mines
Which made it "rich"
It was easily conquered by Songhai which was in turn easily conquered by Morroco
Mansu Musa is considered the richest simply because of the inflation of gold and the fact that they wont give other emperors their fair shake
Morroco, which wasn't even a second tier power, easily conquered the nation that conquered Mali
African history south of the Berbers really isn't very impressive.
Kublai Khan owned all of china. What do you think has more value, all of China or the Gold mines in Mali? @Fidel Castro
but they give all of the worth of China to kublai khan? no because they view it towards the lens of the modern state
Kublai Khan didn't 'own' all of china
it wasn't all his
but for some reason that lens goes away when its comes to the Mali empire
yes, he literally did
there were lower down lords who owned parts surely
thats all of china my man
and unlike the indian and european feudal societies, the khanates were far more centralized and autocratic
this aint the holy roman empire were talking about
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_nobility#Mongol_Empire_(1206%E2%80%931368)_and_Yuan_dynasty_(1271%E2%80%931368)
Others who owned Yuan China partially
@Fidel Castro dude, read your own post
the majority of those titles are prince
there are otehres
and the "kings of states" existed in the most southern regions and were technically owned by the emperor
a vassal is basically a slave
well regardless Mali Empire was still very rich
yes but not because of any advanced production, architecture or culture
its that they had easy to get at gold and salt
and a few central tribes basically sold that shit abroad
well surely if they were such savages they wouldn't be able to create an economy and civilization