But ye

yup ^

i always forget when it comes to Hungary

uralic people need to pick indo-european or turkic

theyre like the barely noticeable person that sits in the back

well hungary had civilization despite not speaking afro-asiatic. Plus hungarans weren't very ethnically different from others in the area

@Fidel Castro why dont you understand?

were not saying all civilizations are from the natufians, just that all the african civilizations of any notability are

sorry if i'm misunderstanding you

Europe is predominately indo-european due to the yamnaya expansion

>all african civilizations of any notability
mali empire tho

i used the term notability for a reason

it was notable

mali couldve literally been conquered by any civilized people but their geography made it a pain.

no, not really

it was even in Civ 5

they were tribal people with one guy who came into power, enslaved other tribes in the form of serfdom and dug up a lot salt and gold to then give and trade to the muslims that he himself converted too

Mansa Musa became the richest guy ever

Mali wasn't that impressive it was just had lots of gold mines

Which made it "rich"

It was easily conquered by Songhai which was in turn easily conquered by Morroco

Mansu Musa is considered the richest simply because of the inflation of gold and the fact that they wont give other emperors their fair shake

Morroco, which wasn't even a second tier power, easily conquered the nation that conquered Mali

African history south of the Berbers really isn't very impressive.

Kublai Khan owned all of china. What do you think has more value, all of China or the Gold mines in Mali? @Fidel Castro

but they give all of the worth of China to kublai khan? no because they view it towards the lens of the modern state

Kublai Khan didn't 'own' all of china

it wasn't all his

but for some reason that lens goes away when its comes to the Mali empire

yes, he literally did

there were lower down lords who owned parts surely

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuan_dynasty

thats all of china my man

and unlike the indian and european feudal societies, the khanates were far more centralized and autocratic

this aint the holy roman empire were talking about

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_nobility#Mongol_Empire_(1206%E2%80%931368)_and_Yuan_dynasty_(1271%E2%80%931368)
Others who owned Yuan China partially

@Fidel Castro dude, read your own post

the majority of those titles are prince

there are otehres

and the "kings of states" existed in the most southern regions and were technically owned by the emperor

a vassal is basically a slave