@Xychotic you’ll save society with your rent a babies🤣 lol nah I’m really considering it tbh

Future generations be damned, they're just going to use me as fuel eventually anyway.

@What's gay anymore yes that’s suicide tho, but it’s your life, individually I can’t say anything about, it’s just we can’t all do that is all I’m saying

It's the opposite of suicide, it's living my life fully how i want to live it

I think you could make a huge bit of progress by implementing a legal "buy the egg, rent the womb" policy

@Xychotic you think they would pass that?💀

Fuck no

Not a chance

That would mean women have to take care of themselves.

Men would have power over their own children.

Society would flourish and powerful, independent adults would proliferate.

Surrogacy is already illegal.

That's the exact opposite of the globalist agenda.

It is?

you can't pay someone to carry the child, you have to give gifts and nonsense

In Australia?

free rent i think is the most common

usa as well i think

99% sure it's legal in the us

@What's gay anymore yes but your life won’t matter is what I’m saying?, or I. Other words your life will be forgotten and you didn’t have any future generations who helped shaped the world, as in your past ancestors brought you here, and you ended it, as in that type of suicide

It's state by state it looks like

@Xychotic it’s a good idea, but honestly reminds me of patriarchy🤣

I love my kids, too much for me to bring them into this filthy world.

Just without the caring for the woman aha

and I would not consider that suicide ember

Families Through Surrogacy, an international non-profit surrogacy organisation, has estimated the approximate average costs in different countries:

US - $100,000 (£60,000)
India - $47,350
Thailand - $52,000
Ukraine - $49,950
Georgia - $49,950
Mexico - $45,000

So, if I were to hazard a guess, best bet is to have a ukrainian surrogate mother

youll go to jail for it in Michigan

@Xychotic is that for the baby or total cost for everything related even after the baby?

It looks like most states say no to commercial surrogacy but are ok with altruistic surrogacy, so just don't pay them

Cali is ok with everything though, surprise surprise

Dunno, look it up.

CA is weird af

Or make sure it's born in Cali, i don't understand surrogacy laws at all

It's got some great stuff to it.

Like, no need for liquor licenses and even costco has vast aisles of liquor.

But then it's got bad stuff, like leftists galore.

But then great stuff like Napa wines and vast farmlands.

@Hajimeshoka not individually but bigger picture it is, but as far as your life and only your life it isn’t, the paradox is to get you having only your life, a man had to give you that life, so to not do the same to a future generation rubs me the wrong way, as the only reason we are alive is because our fathers created us, that’s the inky reason we exist, so as much as it’s our life it was given to us, idk if I’m explaining how I feel right

I'm sure it's a nice enough place if you don't mind homeless everywhere and aids.

But then more bad stuff like tech oligopolies.