I prefer up to 800 yards. Iron is hard but fun.

Used a mosin and it barely had the power to ring the gong

800 is about all your gonna get away with, with a .308 or 30-06

It's a different story when you enter the realm of 7.82 Lazzeroni warbird, 30-378, 338-378, and 338 Lapua

And with a $2,000 scope...preferably Ziess, Sig Sauer, Swarovski, or Night Force

+1600 yards becomes pretty doable

...I mean if I only have a .308 with a $500 Vortex with turrets, 800 would be my limit

It goes subsonic around 800, so it's useless past that

The 338-378 doesnt go subsonic till, around like +2,500 yards

@TwinVickers Nigga, what are you talking about?

It was completely replaced by the M16.

Because we found out almost right after we adopted the M14 that "Holy shit, this thing actually really sucks".

They purposefully sabotaged the M16😂

Imagine how many boys we lost cause the salty government wanted to keep the M14, and not provide proper cleaning kits for M16...Giving it unfair bad rep

@Veritas Prognostician

You heard about that, right?

I have.

Ordnance did everything it could to prevent the

M16 from being adopted.

Alot of men died because of that bs...We shouldve had everyone involved executed for treason

The M14 is the shortest lived service rifle in U.S history, we immediately shelved them as soon as we formally adopted the M16.

I do prefer 7.62 Nato/.308 over 5.56/.223

But as a rifle the M16 was superior

We only pulled them back out again, because we found in out during Desert Storm that there was a niche for a semi auto .30 caliber rifle for squad level marksman.

And even in that role, they were shit.

I wish we had a middle ground like the .280 British...doesnt recoil like the 308 but provides alot more energy than 5.56

I honestly think 5.56 is fine.

AR-10 shouldve been adopted at squad level

You know like how in ww2, youd have a squad BAR and the rest would have a Garand

I'd rather have a lighter recoiling projectile with a higher velocity behind it.

It's just weak AF past 300 yards

No energy left

By 500 its useless

I'd rather have a lower velocity round with a better Ballistic Coefficient

Like 6.5 grendel

The majority of engagements are within 300 yards though.

I know but the Grendal is still a better option

Not much bigger than 5.56

I disagree, I'd rather have the trajectory of 5.56.

6.5 Grendel is a slow, slow round.

The m14 was an excellent rifle. Good stoping power, range and accuracy