@Nicholas1166 - NY thats the duality of the Italian my friend

I never got what the problem with 5 star was. Other than salvini being influential and getting things done.

I like everything he does, but I am a little concerned over the coalition budget. Considering how bad their debt-gdp ratio is, they really need to make sure they don't overspend

5 Star is big tent

Debt doesnt really matter

A lot of its influential base are moderate to moderate left

Gdp is big tent too

5 Star is hard on economics but socially they're willing to bed

They nearly formed a government with the social democrats.

Lega has grown in popularity quite a bit, they might not need five star next time

But they probably wont' be able to clear 40% alone

Salvini kind of needs to keep them under his fist like he has been

I mean I'm lefty economically. But socially hardline right

5 Star isn't hard right socially though.

Salvini started out as a social democrat/lukewarm socialist or something like that

5 Star is just tough on economics because they do the euroskeptic bit

@Nicholas1166 - NY as have other notable Italians 😉

I thought 5 star was who the media were crying about the most and salvini kind of blind sided everyone

No they were pretty scared of lega

Yes, very notable italians, with very strong jaw lines

John Oliver said that 5 Star was like the ukip of Italy, where as salvini was a "new mussolini"

Media doesn't like five star because antiestablishment, but its lega that really gets their blood boiling

I get they were scared of lega but it seems like 5 star was who they focused on

5 Star was a huge chunk of votes

Probably because 5 star was way more powerful

And the EU is scared of 5 Star

^^

This is when the election was going on

The reason league wasnt as attacked as strongly is because they expected them to stay in the center right coalition and for Berlusconi to get more votes

Lega was excepted to do well but not dominate their coalition

Yeah forza almost crashed as hard as PD

You can't be pro immigration in italy anymore and expect to win elections, which of course, is a good thing

Not that forza was really ever pro immigrant, but pd was for sure

Salvini also while the face of lega for a while, is now the face of the Italian establishment. You hear very little about Conte.

Salvini dominates Italian politics.

I'd say he has a good chance at the PM position later down the line but I'm not so sure that's a great idea honestly

@Kingfish Absolutely. If they have another election soon lega will probably explode

He seems quite well off running the show from A smaller position without as much of the heat.

In a good way

Yeah, he runs the rhetoric more than the administration

Yeah he really defines the new regime without having to actually take the heat of leading it