Message from @What Would Jack Conte Do?

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2019-07-24 01:45:59 UTC  

Nigs gonna nog

2019-07-24 02:12:09 UTC  

think of the screeching if you did bring that up at black history month

2019-07-24 09:35:56 UTC  

I bring it up every time people bitch about slavery in the us. "If it wasnt for a black man the US might have kept their indentured servitude model instead."

2019-07-24 10:34:27 UTC  

i always bring up the ottomans

2019-07-24 10:34:30 UTC  

the barbary pirates

2019-07-24 10:34:41 UTC  

the fact that blacks sold slaves to whites

2019-07-24 11:51:13 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki the dress is wrong. Either that or the dates privided

2019-07-24 12:09:15 UTC  

the picture does not matter that much

2019-07-24 12:09:18 UTC  

like i said before

2019-07-24 16:22:42 UTC  

No it isnt. Not everyone dressed exactly the same everywhere.

2019-07-24 20:06:26 UTC  

👍

2019-07-25 00:24:00 UTC  

i was listening to podcast that said how medieval peasants being malnourished in childhood affected them psychosocially so that they acted less independent in later life

2019-07-25 00:24:10 UTC  

because of this, nobility thought of peasants as a different race

2019-07-25 00:24:34 UTC  

because they were factually psychologically different

2019-07-25 00:24:46 UTC  

and behaved in a way that was more dependent on others

2019-07-25 00:27:53 UTC  

just thought it was interesting

2019-07-25 00:39:13 UTC  

Seems interesting

2019-07-25 00:39:46 UTC  

But this ignores the social, religious and philosophical norms of the Era

2019-07-25 01:09:52 UTC  

That and environmental. Especially in the dark ages, but also standard middle ages. It was a fight for survival, so if someone promised protection that was one less thing the peasantry had to deal with.

2019-07-25 14:09:05 UTC  

well the era was 10th century ad

2019-07-25 14:09:23 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki malnourishment is environment, no?

2019-07-25 14:09:51 UTC  

10th century wasn't all that known for its philosophy, mostly just being right at the end of the 'dark ages' for europe

2019-07-25 14:10:01 UTC  

beginning of feudalism basically

2019-07-25 14:26:46 UTC  

10th century was the best time to be alive

2019-07-25 14:26:51 UTC  

you had freedom

2019-07-25 14:26:55 UTC  

and clean air

2019-07-25 14:30:19 UTC  

and eight dead children by the time you reached middle age at 14

2019-07-25 14:33:43 UTC  

that is a small price to pay

2019-07-25 14:33:46 UTC  

for freedom

2019-07-25 14:57:17 UTC  

@desert hamster tenth century sucked, it was the beginning of feudalism, so feudalism was pretty bad - there was often too many obligations that the peasants paid their lord

2019-07-25 14:57:43 UTC  

Like people today don't have obligations

2019-07-25 14:57:45 UTC  

Lol

2019-07-25 14:58:01 UTC  

it only adjusted to leniency later - people were poorer because there was less trade from towns, towns hadn't growth to the size they would by 1300

2019-07-25 14:58:09 UTC  

I think people overestimate the suck of feudalism

2019-07-25 14:58:29 UTC  

Or attribute externalities to the political system

2019-07-25 14:58:37 UTC  

working for free doesn't suck?

2019-07-25 14:59:43 UTC  

They didn't work for free. They had all sorts of checks and balances to prevent abuse of the peasantry.

There's accounts of lords being 'sued' in a sense in the HRE

2019-07-25 15:00:23 UTC  

It's much more nuanced than you're led to believe

2019-07-25 15:00:41 UTC  

yeah there was less checks and balances in the 10th century id say