Message from @Fitzydog
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10th century wasn't all that known for its philosophy, mostly just being right at the end of the 'dark ages' for europe
beginning of feudalism basically
10th century was the best time to be alive
you had freedom
and clean air
and eight dead children by the time you reached middle age at 14
that is a small price to pay
for freedom
@desert hamster tenth century sucked, it was the beginning of feudalism, so feudalism was pretty bad - there was often too many obligations that the peasants paid their lord
Like people today don't have obligations
Lol
it only adjusted to leniency later - people were poorer because there was less trade from towns, towns hadn't growth to the size they would by 1300
I think people overestimate the suck of feudalism
Or attribute externalities to the political system
working for free doesn't suck?
They didn't work for free. They had all sorts of checks and balances to prevent abuse of the peasantry.
There's accounts of lords being 'sued' in a sense in the HRE
It's much more nuanced than you're led to believe
yeah there was less checks and balances in the 10th century id say
because that was the beginning of when kings grew powerful
before then, there wasn't even inheritance for monarchs - it wasn't assured, unless it was some big dynasty like carolingians
also slavery existed in huge numbers
and there were ay-rabs at dem borders
Yes, but not hereditary like in the US
what do you mean by that
Slavery in America? Blacks were slaves by default
Children of slaves were also slaves
no inheritance
?
Of what?
oh nvm
yeah slavery was hereditary i think in some contexts
Some?
Most
in the 10th century anyway - this was the dark ages, this was before all that feudalistic fairness stuff got started really
The dark ages is a myth
well it's a rough debate if you go before 11th century
Being a peasant and being a slave are different things
i know
anyway, gotta go to work