Message from @Wizord

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2019-04-05 14:03:12 UTC  

also, god doesn't exists, but that's a boring question about religion.

2019-04-05 14:03:26 UTC  

There is no value in religion the person puts the value on it

2019-04-05 14:03:54 UTC  

Yeah it's politics not religion

2019-04-05 14:04:49 UTC  

fine, I'll rephrase it if you're being so picky about words: societies that follow some specific religions will generally get something that *you* deem valuable.

2019-04-05 14:06:29 UTC  

I guess if some of my values link with theirs

2019-04-05 14:06:47 UTC  

Or if we come up with the same conclusion

2019-04-05 14:07:02 UTC  

But i don't get the relevance

2019-04-05 14:08:34 UTC  

like, imagine arguing against "the boy who cried wolf".
"oh the boy didn't actually exist", "we don't even know his name", "what an unrealistic story", "why didn't they have better wolf protection/patrols"

2019-04-05 14:08:55 UTC  

that's not the fucking point of that story

2019-04-05 14:10:58 UTC  

so the point of a religion is to point out things we find valuable through stories?

2019-04-05 14:11:14 UTC  

yes, or at least the things that were valuable at the time stories were written

2019-04-05 14:11:27 UTC  

Religion is like

2019-04-05 14:11:27 UTC  

yeah

2019-04-05 14:11:34 UTC  

Moral stories covered with bullshit

2019-04-05 14:11:41 UTC  

But no one cares about the bullshit

2019-04-05 14:11:49 UTC  

Except like creationists or something

2019-04-05 14:12:00 UTC  

yeah usually have philosophical backing

2019-04-05 14:12:24 UTC  

yeah, but you need some of the bullshit so that people remember the stories. (see: the boy who cried wolf)

2019-04-05 14:12:58 UTC  

its basically a simple version of the current state of morality

2019-04-05 14:13:03 UTC  

for the plebs

2019-04-05 14:13:50 UTC  

there's probably more to it but yeh

2019-04-05 14:13:57 UTC  

easier to digest

2019-04-05 14:44:12 UTC  

Has anyone shown Carl this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gZFGpNdH1A

2019-04-05 14:51:36 UTC  

Isn't part of the reason the nords health care system works because they can afford to do it

2019-04-05 14:51:45 UTC  

Because they don't pay for their national defense

2019-04-05 14:52:43 UTC  

And also because they don't have extreme regulations

2019-04-05 15:20:06 UTC  

that only applies to norway as they are a part of nato

2019-04-05 15:20:51 UTC  

every other nordic country are wholly responsible about their own defense

2019-04-05 15:27:26 UTC  

i suppose you could make the argument that US pays for swedish defense budget as AT4 (M136) is a product of sweden. beyond materiel contract such as that i have no idea where ben shapiro got into his head that the nordics don't pay for their own defense

2019-04-05 15:58:43 UTC  

They have practically no defence

2019-04-05 15:59:26 UTC  

They have a militia

2019-04-05 15:59:47 UTC  

Its small

2019-04-05 16:00:10 UTC  

So they pay comparatively little to maintain it.

2019-04-05 16:35:16 UTC  

we have a militia? 1939 called and they'd like their soviets back

2019-04-05 16:37:06 UTC  

I am saying their military is so small it is basically a militia

2019-04-05 16:37:46 UTC  

ever heard of conscription?

2019-04-05 16:38:21 UTC  

Ever heard of tyranny?

2019-04-05 16:38:40 UTC  

so every able male of the whole nation is a militia?

2019-04-05 16:39:11 UTC  

Kind of by definition if they are not active duty.