@Patty I think the problem with childhood transitioning is at that point it’s more the parent making the choice

@Joe_Limon Age?

Name your limit

Legally or morally?

I work in a school and the students cannot fill in any paperwork without heir parent until 13

Morally

Theres actually a really good look at this in the podcast Science vs

Highly dependant on the maturity of the person involved and the consistency in their diagnoses of gender dysphoria, whether there are other extraneous factors.

I wouldn't feel comfortable lower than 16

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I didn't think it was real

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@Patty have you heard of Autogyephilia and Autoandrophilia?
https://tracieokeefe.com/autogynephilia-and-autoandrophilia-in-non-sex-and-gender-dysphoric-persons/

do you think these are real things and if so do you think they are misdiagnosed as gender dysphoria or vice versa?

@Patty but brains don't really stop changing until about 25

Personally anyone under maybe even 18 don’t know fuck all

to be fair the youngest most trans people would ever go on hormones is 16

@Joe_Limon So are people legally not allowed to get any form of mind or body altering substances until 25? No alcohol, cigarettes, weed, piercings, tattoos etc. etc? Just curious, not moving the goal posts

which is only a 2 year difference

@Patty they should be

Piercings and tattoos whatever

But weed, alcohol, etc

I would be down for that. But I do not partake in any of the above at 31

by all means get tattoos at 21 dumbass

Wait, are we conflating mind altering substances with hormone therapy??

yes

Just one use of weed prior to the end of brain development had been shown to have negative impacts on brain development

Last I checked

Not conflating, asking their opinion

Weed has an impact on development

Who's the dumbass that started this conversation

@Fitzydog are you saying there’s a difference?

yeah of course

If a substance turns me into a woman, is it mind altering?

Hormone therapy is definitely

Fuck knows but you was already fucked in the head

One destroys your body through forced chemical Imbalances that it's not intended to withstand, and the other just makes you talk with god for a few hours

wait define destroys your body

@Sock as in, destroys your body.

We barely know what this stuff does, and it makes you sterile