@Joe_Limon So are people legally not allowed to get any form of mind or body altering substances until 25? No alcohol, cigarettes, weed, piercings, tattoos etc. etc? Just curious, not moving the goal posts

which is only a 2 year difference

@Patty they should be

Piercings and tattoos whatever

But weed, alcohol, etc

I would be down for that. But I do not partake in any of the above at 31

by all means get tattoos at 21 dumbass

Wait, are we conflating mind altering substances with hormone therapy??

yes

Just one use of weed prior to the end of brain development had been shown to have negative impacts on brain development

Last I checked

Not conflating, asking their opinion

Weed has an impact on development

Who's the dumbass that started this conversation

@Fitzydog are you saying there’s a difference?

yeah of course

If a substance turns me into a woman, is it mind altering?

Hormone therapy is definitely

Fuck knows but you was already fucked in the head

One destroys your body through forced chemical Imbalances that it's not intended to withstand, and the other just makes you talk with god for a few hours

wait define destroys your body

@Sock as in, destroys your body.

We barely know what this stuff does, and it makes you sterile

@brownin it is hard to say if the fuckery is due to past trama and learned (as is most cases) or biological

If you woke up with tits after a stag party. That would be kinda wild tho

There are no other cures for gender dysphoria, what is your suggestion?

It renders you infertile doesn't it? That seems like a big deal

@Patty Source?

There isn't one

fyi

It makes you infertile if you went on it right after puberty blockers. there are cases of trans men getting pregnant after going on hormones

It's literally a fashion statement by therapists to show their virtue

There is zero evidence that hormones do anything except APPEASE a gender confused individual

like it def can cause infertility, its just not 100%

@Joe_Limon I just can’t understand why someone would feel the need to change their sex. If you was born a man, you don’t have to be all macho and a gentleman to be a man

I am aware it's not a cure, it's treating the symptom

@SockSo you're staying mentally Ill people have the right to make life altering decisions about their body?

I guess suicide is an option for depression then

Do I wish there was an alternative? OF COURSE!

@Patty No, treating the symptom is teaching people to be comfortable with their gender

You cut your body because you wanna be the other sex, you need counselling

You don't tell an insane man hes Napoleon

No one else finds it odd that trannies only popped up once victim culture became a thing, and women had the upper hand socially?