Message from @Goblin_Slayer_Floki

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2019-04-30 19:53:29 UTC  

Mexico

2019-04-30 19:53:45 UTC  

not unlike libya, iraq, etc.

2019-04-30 19:53:50 UTC  

syria

2019-04-30 19:54:03 UTC  

Bit different there. Many nations were against it.

2019-04-30 19:54:07 UTC  

Mexico hasn't backed him... could be interesting how this reflects on US mexico relations

2019-04-30 19:54:29 UTC  

Didn't mexico do what the Holy See did?

2019-04-30 19:54:35 UTC  

And chose neither side?

2019-04-30 19:55:38 UTC  

Mexico has not backed Guiadó as they side more with Maduro, just not publically

2019-04-30 19:57:13 UTC  

Wait no, they did publically. Apparently his predicessor was Pro Guaido, but wanted Peaceful Resolution. But Amlo went full ham for Maduro.

2019-04-30 19:59:53 UTC  

Also Tero "Turkey" is supposedly one of our allies.

But the ones against just want clearly wanted a satellite state.

But tbh, Venuzueala was an inevitable. The nation has been in gradually worse shambles for a very long time. Unlike Syria and others that were decent economically and then insurgency.

2019-04-30 20:00:43 UTC  

It was an inevitable steamroll from when Madero began seizing production.

2019-04-30 20:02:32 UTC  

while i'm not defending venezuela's economic performance or government
the list of oil rich nations the US has "regime changed" grows ever longer

2019-04-30 20:03:02 UTC  

it's called democracy <:pepe_smug:560207654207750154>

2019-04-30 20:03:42 UTC  

Syria, Libya, and afganistan don't have major oil markets

2019-04-30 20:04:11 UTC  

And we didn't hold the oil in Iraq, that was lost rather quickly to others.

2019-04-30 20:05:24 UTC  

Nor was there a regime change in Syria, last I checked Al-Assad was still in charge.

2019-04-30 20:06:10 UTC  

Just because a people rise up, and the US goes "Hey you all have had shit lives, let us support you." doesn't mean "US INSTIGATED COUP!"

2019-04-30 20:06:54 UTC  

Especially when the world minus those who either share Madero's ideology, or want them as a satellite state, all come out in support.

2019-04-30 20:08:00 UTC  

Friendly reminder the US is a net oil *exporter*.

2019-04-30 20:09:51 UTC  

Also Syria, Libya, and others we got pulled into because of ISIS/SAUD.
At this moment even in shambles Ven is the number 2 OPEC supplier, if they get their shit together and be stable and productive, they can overtake Saud. Then that chain all you "MURICA IS IMPERIALIST" cucks cry about is severed, because SAUD wouldn't own the largest export anymore.

2019-04-30 20:10:32 UTC  

Venuzuela becomes a true democratic free people who don't have to starve, and the world gets freed from Saud chains...win win?

2019-04-30 20:15:34 UTC  

@Jym We arn't quite a Net Exporter of "Oil" in general, we still consume more crude and 'other' than export, but we are a Net exporter of 'finished products'. The thing is tho, our consumption and production are so close it isn't a dire need.

2019-04-30 20:16:06 UTC  

but if trends continue, we will be a net exporter of both within 5 to 10 years

2019-04-30 20:18:41 UTC  

Completely unrelated, yet somehow still interesting:

Markets in which American full sized trucks are sold:
* North America
* Gulf States

2019-04-30 20:19:21 UTC  

Isn't that the same thing? Gulf states are in North America

2019-04-30 20:20:48 UTC  

Huh, seems europe Pickup market is growing.

2019-04-30 20:20:55 UTC  

For American Pickups

2019-04-30 20:25:01 UTC  

I just had a idea. Like you know how the media uses guilt of association if you platform or talk to people on the far right, right or whatever is deemed far right by the far lefts definition. Like what if it’s from a underlying premise that the left has a preference for people with similar preferences to for their narrative and which is why people like Sargon, dank, Tommy, ect don’t get platformed because the narrative agrees that their opinions are wrong think and there by inconceivable in the lefts view, despite platforming actual white nationalists to fit their narrative

2019-04-30 20:25:33 UTC  

two or three things
libya has a ton of oil, and was producing nearly 2 million barrels of oil per day before being regime changed
syria hasn't been regime changed _yet_, bc russia stepped in to prevent it but you're right about them not having oil
>And we didn't hold the oil in Iraq, that was lost rather quickly to others.
this doesn't really matter, it's more about ensuring that the oil-having countries are under US control than anything

2019-04-30 20:26:30 UTC  

lol you think we control Libya? Funny. We invade well, but we can't hold/control shit.

2019-04-30 20:26:39 UTC  

Thats always been the US's folly

2019-04-30 20:26:55 UTC  

well it's more under US control than it was before

2019-04-30 20:27:06 UTC  

The US is just usually trash at colonialism

2019-04-30 20:27:14 UTC  

sad tbh

2019-04-30 20:28:08 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki anyway the same things being said about venezuela, that we need to bring democracy and whatnot, were said about the other countries as well and none of them look to be better for it

2019-04-30 20:28:52 UTC  

No one is saying 'bring democracy' You realize Venezuela is Democratic? It was just hijacked by a dictator that needs removed

2019-04-30 20:29:10 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki

Sure I should have said petrochem. But, lets be honest, most people think gasoline anyway....

2019-04-30 20:29:11 UTC  

And it wasn't even began BY the US

2019-04-30 20:29:24 UTC  

It was started internally

2019-04-30 20:30:00 UTC  

So regardless of anything, we should just not say a damn thing when something happens in the world? But we should let our enemies?

2019-04-30 20:30:53 UTC  

No worries then. Wonder what you would say if there was a second Civil war. The US is Supporting a Regime change by the US in the US because US Imperialism