It was an inevitable steamroll from when Madero began seizing production.

while i'm not defending venezuela's economic performance or government
the list of oil rich nations the US has "regime changed" grows ever longer

it's called democracy <:pepe_smug:560207654207750154>

Syria, Libya, and afganistan don't have major oil markets

And we didn't hold the oil in Iraq, that was lost rather quickly to others.

Nor was there a regime change in Syria, last I checked Al-Assad was still in charge.

Just because a people rise up, and the US goes "Hey you all have had shit lives, let us support you." doesn't mean "US INSTIGATED COUP!"

Especially when the world minus those who either share Madero's ideology, or want them as a satellite state, all come out in support.

Friendly reminder the US is a net oil *exporter*.

Also Syria, Libya, and others we got pulled into because of ISIS/SAUD.
At this moment even in shambles Ven is the number 2 OPEC supplier, if they get their shit together and be stable and productive, they can overtake Saud. Then that chain all you "MURICA IS IMPERIALIST" cucks cry about is severed, because SAUD wouldn't own the largest export anymore.

Venuzuela becomes a true democratic free people who don't have to starve, and the world gets freed from Saud chains...win win?

@Jym We arn't quite a Net Exporter of "Oil" in general, we still consume more crude and 'other' than export, but we are a Net exporter of 'finished products'. The thing is tho, our consumption and production are so close it isn't a dire need.

but if trends continue, we will be a net exporter of both within 5 to 10 years

Completely unrelated, yet somehow still interesting:

Markets in which American full sized trucks are sold:
* North America
* Gulf States

Isn't that the same thing? Gulf states are in North America

Huh, seems europe Pickup market is growing.

For American Pickups

I just had a idea. Like you know how the media uses guilt of association if you platform or talk to people on the far right, right or whatever is deemed far right by the far lefts definition. Like what if it’s from a underlying premise that the left has a preference for people with similar preferences to for their narrative and which is why people like Sargon, dank, Tommy, ect don’t get platformed because the narrative agrees that their opinions are wrong think and there by inconceivable in the lefts view, despite platforming actual white nationalists to fit their narrative

two or three things
libya has a ton of oil, and was producing nearly 2 million barrels of oil per day before being regime changed
syria hasn't been regime changed _yet_, bc russia stepped in to prevent it but you're right about them not having oil
>And we didn't hold the oil in Iraq, that was lost rather quickly to others.
this doesn't really matter, it's more about ensuring that the oil-having countries are under US control than anything

lol you think we control Libya? Funny. We invade well, but we can't hold/control shit.

Thats always been the US's folly

well it's more under US control than it was before

The US is just usually trash at colonialism

sad tbh

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki anyway the same things being said about venezuela, that we need to bring democracy and whatnot, were said about the other countries as well and none of them look to be better for it

No one is saying 'bring democracy' You realize Venezuela is Democratic? It was just hijacked by a dictator that needs removed

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki

Sure I should have said petrochem. But, lets be honest, most people think gasoline anyway....

And it wasn't even began BY the US

It was started internally

So regardless of anything, we should just not say a damn thing when something happens in the world? But we should let our enemies?

No worries then. Wonder what you would say if there was a second Civil war. The US is Supporting a Regime change by the US in the US because US Imperialism

Syria, Libya, and others I would grant were due to Anti-Terrorism action (Because ISIS/ISIL), Pro Muslim Brotherhood actions (Under Obama), and the Sauds. I would grant that.

But the "Muh Oil" meme is funny, but not really the truth sorry.

We should lottery number each country we wouldn’t mind falling to communism and spin the wheel like a game of Russian roulette to see who dies first. We can then force communism on them so that we can have a country take it up the ass in order to have concrete evidence that Marx and his communist ideaology that proceeded him, are just complete trash. But honestly they’d probably just say it wasn’t really communism

<:thronk:441701565607444482> <:Commie_ball:466404411535785995>

It’s like Russian roulette but instead it’s death by communism’s and eventually the gulag

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@Goblin_Slayer_Floki Gulf states mean like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain

Better than China having Venezuela in a debt trap, maybe. They were supposed to repay in oil. China may lose its investment with the new government.

Wouldn't be a new thing. The oil industry they nationalized was largely built by foreign direct investment so they stole that too. The fun part? China sold that same oil back to us because their refineries can't handle that heavy sulfurous product.

@Fitzydog oh that gulf.