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2019-05-12 14:59:05 UTC  

Holding up tweets from many years ago is kinda a fucked tactic. As peoples views change.

2019-05-12 14:59:20 UTC  

We shouldn't dig through tweets 7 years ago, why? Look at Kevin Hart.

2019-05-12 14:59:34 UTC  

The mistake would be to say Andrew Neil is in line with the rest of the BBC - and that's where everybody and their dog have got the exchange wrong with Shapiro

2019-05-12 14:59:36 UTC  

He did reply once to that effect, but Neil kept at it.

2019-05-12 15:00:03 UTC  

yes, it was all related to the subject of his new book

2019-05-12 15:00:20 UTC  
2019-05-12 15:00:37 UTC  

It is very difficult to understand UK politics as an American, when our politics are so different.

2019-05-12 15:01:31 UTC  

We barely get a break from our own idiots in politics to get a chance to see how everyone else works.

Marr bothered to ask Farage about ...guns?

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2019-05-12 15:01:59 UTC  

If Shapiro actually wrote the book, he was advocating for peaceful, harmonious discourse between political groups... Neil was setting out that Shapiro is very divisive in how he chooses to interract, which is hypocrisy.

2019-05-12 15:02:28 UTC  

To Shapiro, the guy does sound Leftist. To me, he is one, he is well left of American conservatives.

2019-05-12 15:02:57 UTC  

and that's the problem, expecting everybody else to cow-tow to American definitions

2019-05-12 15:03:05 UTC  

I think that that cultural difference was missed

2019-05-12 15:03:17 UTC  

i didn't get to the guns discussion yet

2019-05-12 15:03:34 UTC  

Or expecting an American to know that your left is different.

2019-05-12 15:03:55 UTC  

Shapiro set himself up as an expert - he is fair game

2019-05-12 15:04:12 UTC  

Our media never leaves our borders, we barely get shown how the rest of the world thinks

2019-05-12 15:04:17 UTC  

I will probably do a video to explain how Shapiro fucked up so bad.

2019-05-12 15:05:11 UTC  

Okay, so you say your tweets from 7 years ago are fair game right?

2019-05-12 15:05:31 UTC  

Incidentally, when I was watching it live, I thought Shapiro was partly justified - but when watching it again, it was actually worse

2019-05-12 15:05:51 UTC  

yes, when it provides context for how people choose to interract with others

2019-05-12 15:05:56 UTC  

Is it the one where shapiro gets wrecked liberal style?

2019-05-12 15:06:14 UTC  

epic liberal style***

2019-05-12 15:06:24 UTC  

That is a leftist response.

2019-05-12 15:06:46 UTC  

lol... marr can't distinguish between farage being prepared to fight a second referendum vs being in support of having one

2019-05-12 15:06:49 UTC  

what a mong

2019-05-12 15:07:04 UTC  

yep, Marr totally in bad faith

2019-05-12 15:07:08 UTC  

You have been criticizing the left for this tactic up till now, who is the hypocrite?

2019-05-12 15:07:30 UTC  

who has criticised tactics?

2019-05-12 15:07:58 UTC  

tactics are part of warfare, not part of ideology

Everyone left of Ben Shapiro is a Leftist <:shap:497652686603288576>

2019-05-12 15:08:30 UTC  

fairness is relative

2019-05-12 15:08:31 UTC  

I'll keep that in mind when you dress in black bloc and dox people's families next.

2019-05-12 15:08:46 UTC  

> Shapiro was demolished
> Marr was demolished
> only difference is where the politician was from the question tactics were the same

2019-05-12 15:09:00 UTC  

yes, it's a tactic... but are all tactics acceptable?

2019-05-12 15:09:38 UTC  

Marr's tactics were flawed because he strayed from the facts to try to get a cheap win

2019-05-12 15:09:57 UTC  

ah i got to the gun bit "do you still want to roll back gun control?"

2019-05-12 15:10:04 UTC  

Tactics are tactics. My point is they were the same. You just dont like one person it was aimed at and do the other

2019-05-12 15:10:16 UTC  

at 11:12 in the vid i linked

2019-05-12 15:10:22 UTC  

I don't know Marr or what he did.