Message from @Ondsinet
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and 3 more years hooray! at least 3 years, hooray!
this is from BBC4's documentary on the EU's handling of brexit... maybe i should watch it
link?
well the EU is run by drunks that demands 1000$ wins and drink it like it was a 10$
Iโve seen snippets of that and based on what shown people should be rallying behind leaving even if they werenโt before
Granted Iโve not seen context or that
Well they are calling 'us' ReLeavers now
but there's not alot of Leavers that have changed their mind
and there's an undetermined number of people like me
that voted Remain but want Brexit on Democratic grounds
and thus hate the Liberal Democrats
Labour and the Tories
Hell thereโs plenty people that voted remain that just changed their minds in general too
Thatโll be the silent tide of votes coming in off the radar
well the Euros have been very ROOD
Isn't that what they normally are?
What a ficking misogynist that protestor is
She just doesnโt realize how multicultural Islam is. What a bigot am I right <:HonkHonk:566814473646768128>
@EnderOctanus i was thinking about your idea about tracking down records of jews from before the war and after, to try to work out how many have gone missing. it wouldn't be a precise science, but i suppose one place to start would be looking at people with birth certificates, who had no death certificate? though, i suppose many records probably got destroyed during the war, so it might be a bit inexact - but still could say something. another idea is looking at drop of birth-rates in the jewish areas after the holocaust
It might be hard since there are variables such as how many got shipped off, changed their identities or like left the country our of their own volition to avoid persecution. But you could get a rough estimate
yeah, you might learn -something
perhaps these studies have been done
see, i had asked myself the question, "if i had access to the records, how would i prove the holocaust took place?" and it's actually a difficult question
or, what was its scale
as opposed to "did it take place"
i'm happy to accept the photos of piles of bodies, skeletons, and mass graves that presumably exist indicate that it at least -took place-
so the question is the scale
A lot of those records were destroyed during the war
i suspected that might be the case.. shame
I think the holocaust happened and there were a lot of atrocities carried out against the Jews and jypsies along with disabled people and LGBT people. Like I feel that itโd be Interesting to try to find the scale of it, but given records being destroyed itโd be hard
so even with access to all extant records, it's hard to actually guage its full scale
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They did this kind of math but it lead to some mistakes (like overestimating Dachau and underestimating the Einstsgruppen). Bloodlands by Snyder goes pretty in depth on what killings occurred where and how. A big problem is that much of the holocaust happened in the East. Stalin wasn't exactly a fan of historical accuracy.
holocaust? again? fuck me
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