Message from @Tero

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2019-05-18 16:47:40 UTC  

just democracy via representatives, rather than directly

2019-05-18 16:52:15 UTC  

We are a constitutional republic. Our votes are not direct, and can even be dismissed by the representative in the case of the Electoral College.

2019-05-18 16:53:10 UTC  

We do not vote on Federal structure aside from presidencies, and see above as to why this is not democratic.

2019-05-18 16:53:27 UTC  

We are a democracy LOCALLY.

2019-05-18 16:53:43 UTC  

But the local authorities answer to Federal ones.

2019-05-18 16:53:48 UTC  

you vote on federal representatives

2019-05-18 16:54:44 UTC  

and the ones not voted on directly, are chosen by people who are

2019-05-18 16:55:04 UTC  

Yes, who are not supposed to do anything but represent their state. They were never meant to be *part* of the Federal machine so much as a method of checking its power.

2019-05-18 16:55:57 UTC  

Almost the entirety of public officials are completely unelected, such as FBI Director.

2019-05-18 16:56:26 UTC  

sure, but that's the same in every european and anglosphere country

2019-05-18 16:56:36 UTC  

none of whom would consider themselves not a democracy

2019-05-18 16:56:52 UTC  

A democracy does not have all of these extra steps and half-powers.

2019-05-18 16:57:03 UTC  

well, it does tho

2019-05-18 16:57:23 UTC  

No it doesn't, to say so is to misunderstand the systems.

2019-05-18 16:57:38 UTC  

what you're talking about is a system which doesn't exist in any country

2019-05-18 16:57:45 UTC  

I know.

2019-05-18 16:57:54 UTC  

it's not a real thing

2019-05-18 16:58:19 UTC  

democracies all have elected representatives who do the mundane things of running the country for the people

2019-05-18 16:58:21 UTC  

Nobody wants a true democracy.

2019-05-18 16:58:57 UTC  

Okay so you know how there are different types of monarchies?

2019-05-18 16:59:07 UTC  

even switzerland where they can veto federal laws by direct vote has representatives who make law

2019-05-18 17:00:04 UTC  

There are constitutional monarchies in which the sovereign/monarch has no authority where it is not given to them by codified law. They are restricted.

2019-05-18 17:01:12 UTC  

The reason we call ourselves, and insist on being called, a constitutional republic, is because we are the same. Our government is restricted in what it can do. The moment it oversteps, we are legitimized in dismantling its positions.

2019-05-18 17:02:09 UTC  

No other country TO MY KNOWLEDGE has enshrined in law the idea of rebellion against its government.

2019-05-18 17:02:51 UTC  

Most people outside of the US refer to it as a "democracy" so

2019-05-18 17:02:59 UTC  

Normies <:pepe_hang:460603218766987298>

2019-05-18 17:03:00 UTC  

We take that incredibly seriously on the right, while the left sees it as barbaric.

2019-05-18 17:03:58 UTC  

`No other country TO MY KNOWLEDGE has enshrined in law the idea of rebellion against its government.
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lol

2019-05-18 17:04:05 UTC  

fat load of good that did the south

2019-05-18 17:04:37 UTC  

The south didn't claim to be fixing the system, rather, making a new one.

2019-05-18 17:04:48 UTC  

they were rebelling

2019-05-18 17:05:06 UTC  

Secceeding.

2019-05-18 17:05:11 UTC  

incidentally, many european countries have a better track record than the US of rebelling against their government

2019-05-18 17:05:29 UTC  

French? LUL

2019-05-18 17:05:31 UTC  

england overthrew theirs numerous times, violently

2019-05-18 17:05:49 UTC  

They should do more of that nowadays

2019-05-18 17:05:54 UTC  

Pretty easy when numbers can win the day.

2019-05-18 18:42:57 UTC  

oy vey

2019-05-18 18:45:59 UTC  

Trying to harm the FPΓ– with that Video could very well backfire