Message from @woll3

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2019-05-20 18:09:15 UTC  

School vouchers

2019-05-20 18:09:24 UTC  

Thats how things work here

2019-05-20 18:09:42 UTC  

Which is why migrants prefer Germany in the end kappa

2019-05-20 18:09:44 UTC  

@Fitzydog to be fair. Some of those people are truly disabled. Also everyone has school vouchers

2019-05-20 18:10:00 UTC  

@woll3 All things combined, these benefits are MORE than $1000 a month

2019-05-20 18:10:09 UTC  

reduce benefits

2019-05-20 18:10:11 UTC  

And there's no incentive to budget

2019-05-20 18:10:14 UTC  

make a tier system

2019-05-20 18:10:19 UTC  

BUDGETING

2019-05-20 18:10:43 UTC  

what budgeting, if an adult cant do basic math it needs to die anyway

2019-05-20 18:11:02 UTC  

@woll3 assuming exception for the mentally disabled

2019-05-20 18:11:06 UTC  

ofc

2019-05-20 18:11:12 UTC  

Yall here are so concerned with "are they warm and safe?"

And here I am asking "how do we get them OFF of welfare?"

Jfc

2019-05-20 18:11:29 UTC  

here we have mandatory classes and courses for people on welfare to attend to

2019-05-20 18:11:36 UTC  

Good for you

2019-05-20 18:11:38 UTC  

if they dont they get less money

2019-05-20 18:11:41 UTC  

That's the thing. If you kill all welfare for anyone not actually mentally or physically disabled it will cure all of this.

2019-05-20 18:11:48 UTC  

its simple, its effective

2019-05-20 18:12:18 UTC  

The true physical and mentally disabled sadly wont be able to work off of it.

2019-05-20 18:12:21 UTC  

I don't even know why I'm arguing about American welfare with someone who don't live here

2019-05-20 18:12:48 UTC  

Because it goes back to welfare in itself not being the issue

2019-05-20 18:12:51 UTC  

Eh you comment on other nations

2019-05-20 18:12:57 UTC  

True

2019-05-20 18:13:00 UTC  

Lol

2019-05-20 18:13:12 UTC  

@woll3 How's it not the issue?

2019-05-20 18:13:46 UTC  

Most of America's social problems can be directly traced back to the exact year welfare was created

2019-05-20 18:13:50 UTC  

Because as i was saying, not every welfare system is designed the same way, if people get dependent on welfare, there are ways to get them off

2019-05-20 18:14:02 UTC  

You need to reform it, not abolish it

2019-05-20 18:14:04 UTC  

@Fitzydog because the issue isnt the people who truly need it (mental and physical disabled and elderly) the issue is the fluff and extra who are on it.

2019-05-20 18:14:08 UTC  

@woll3 Why would the govt want that though?

2019-05-20 18:14:18 UTC  

Your guys' def of welfare is diff

2019-05-20 18:14:31 UTC  

Why would the govt want anything other than power?

2019-05-20 18:15:00 UTC  

Which ultimately boils down to the two party system being relatively

2019-05-20 18:15:03 UTC  

underwhelming

2019-05-20 18:15:19 UTC  

not like its mcuh better here atm but still

2019-05-20 18:15:24 UTC  

And then there's the point I keep bringing up that everyone likes to ignore:

The welfare state WILL collapse

2019-05-20 18:15:45 UTC  

@Fitzydog all states will collapse

2019-05-20 18:15:50 UTC  

@woll3 We have like a 100 party system technically, with two coalitions, if using British definitions

2019-05-20 18:16:37 UTC  

We don't use the word 'party' in the same context

2019-05-20 18:16:38 UTC  

All states have and will collapse, or become unrecognisable from the original or predicessor

2019-05-20 18:16:58 UTC  

@woll3 yea our "parties" are coalitions