Message from @woll3

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2019-05-20 18:07:57 UTC  

Norway did combine all the agencies under one roof, it the biggest bureaucratical nightmare you can find

2019-05-20 18:08:04 UTC  

@Fitzydog woll is right what you are saying is a US beurocracy problem. Not innately q social welfare issue. As not all states with welfare have that issue

2019-05-20 18:08:42 UTC  

@woll3 The people who are in welfare in the US are coddled and babies by the state in ever aspect of their lives, to where they don't even have to LEARN how to take care of themselves.

Is it any wonder they don't know how to save money?

2019-05-20 18:08:55 UTC  

Housing vouchers

2019-05-20 18:09:02 UTC  

Food vouchers

2019-05-20 18:09:08 UTC  

Transportation vouchers

2019-05-20 18:09:11 UTC  

OFC you need to fuck them, give ultimatums

2019-05-20 18:09:15 UTC  

School vouchers

2019-05-20 18:09:24 UTC  

Thats how things work here

2019-05-20 18:09:42 UTC  

Which is why migrants prefer Germany in the end kappa

2019-05-20 18:09:44 UTC  

@Fitzydog to be fair. Some of those people are truly disabled. Also everyone has school vouchers

2019-05-20 18:10:00 UTC  

@woll3 All things combined, these benefits are MORE than $1000 a month

2019-05-20 18:10:09 UTC  

reduce benefits

2019-05-20 18:10:11 UTC  

And there's no incentive to budget

2019-05-20 18:10:14 UTC  

make a tier system

2019-05-20 18:10:19 UTC  

BUDGETING

2019-05-20 18:10:43 UTC  

what budgeting, if an adult cant do basic math it needs to die anyway

2019-05-20 18:11:02 UTC  

@woll3 assuming exception for the mentally disabled

2019-05-20 18:11:06 UTC  

ofc

2019-05-20 18:11:12 UTC  

Yall here are so concerned with "are they warm and safe?"

And here I am asking "how do we get them OFF of welfare?"

Jfc

2019-05-20 18:11:29 UTC  

here we have mandatory classes and courses for people on welfare to attend to

2019-05-20 18:11:36 UTC  

Good for you

2019-05-20 18:11:38 UTC  

if they dont they get less money

2019-05-20 18:11:41 UTC  

That's the thing. If you kill all welfare for anyone not actually mentally or physically disabled it will cure all of this.

2019-05-20 18:11:48 UTC  

its simple, its effective

2019-05-20 18:12:18 UTC  

The true physical and mentally disabled sadly wont be able to work off of it.

2019-05-20 18:12:21 UTC  

I don't even know why I'm arguing about American welfare with someone who don't live here

2019-05-20 18:12:48 UTC  

Because it goes back to welfare in itself not being the issue

2019-05-20 18:12:51 UTC  

Eh you comment on other nations

2019-05-20 18:12:57 UTC  

True

2019-05-20 18:13:00 UTC  

Lol

2019-05-20 18:13:12 UTC  

@woll3 How's it not the issue?

2019-05-20 18:13:46 UTC  

Most of America's social problems can be directly traced back to the exact year welfare was created

2019-05-20 18:13:50 UTC  

Because as i was saying, not every welfare system is designed the same way, if people get dependent on welfare, there are ways to get them off

2019-05-20 18:14:02 UTC  

You need to reform it, not abolish it

2019-05-20 18:14:04 UTC  

@Fitzydog because the issue isnt the people who truly need it (mental and physical disabled and elderly) the issue is the fluff and extra who are on it.

2019-05-20 18:14:08 UTC  

@woll3 Why would the govt want that though?

2019-05-20 18:14:18 UTC  

Your guys' def of welfare is diff

2019-05-20 18:14:31 UTC  

Why would the govt want anything other than power?

2019-05-20 18:15:00 UTC  

Which ultimately boils down to the two party system being relatively

2019-05-20 18:15:03 UTC  

underwhelming