Message from @Goblin_Slayer_Floki

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2019-05-23 06:28:19 UTC  

I'm like...so...they support the poorer counties...by....stealing money from them?

2019-05-23 06:28:33 UTC  

Ahh, so votes have power based on subjective value

2019-05-23 06:28:43 UTC  

Basically

2019-05-23 06:29:09 UTC  

Well democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting for dinner

2019-05-23 06:29:15 UTC  

But don't worry, the decades of Metros voting against the needs of the Rurals will immediately end with a full national direct democrasy

2019-05-23 06:29:27 UTC  

Cause he wills it

2019-05-23 06:30:17 UTC  

Isn't that when rurals decide to revert back to subsistence farming?

2019-05-23 06:30:45 UTC  

They couldn't...cause they would be voted not to. <:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>

2019-05-23 06:30:46 UTC  

Ahh, like the gulags

2019-05-23 06:32:36 UTC  

I give this Utopia a slightly longer survival time than Ancapistan, because he still admitted the Monopoly of Force would be in the hands of the rather vague "Government". But it honestly would collapse before the "True Communism" utopia. It would take as long as the first right revoking vote finished before the US would Balkanize or simply a civil war happen.

2019-05-23 06:33:06 UTC  

I'd rather take my chance with private security in AnCapistan

2019-05-23 06:35:55 UTC  

Eh Ancapistan would devolve quickly to warlordism.

I'm not saying the "Direct" would do much better. but the shell of a gov could hold it together until a new series of orders are needed and have to wait for a vote.

2019-05-23 06:36:43 UTC  

Like the biggest flaw avoided is the time frame a vote of the people takes. It took weeks to finish the Presidential vote...

2019-05-23 06:37:01 UTC  

Your guns would confiscated immediately, and civil war would erupt

2019-05-23 06:37:32 UTC  

Not 'immediate' it would take a month or more to hold the vote and tally it before movement

2019-05-23 06:38:48 UTC  

But then yes it would end in Balkanization and/or civil war would be immanent then.

2019-05-23 08:20:11 UTC  

Pro Choice yet Anti-Killing Vegans confuse the ever loving shit out of me. Trying to run the mental gymnastics that they have the right to force you to not kill an animal to eat. But Women have the right to not be forced to carry a life. But can kill and simply dispose of a life because it is inconvenient... Even trying to describe the position confuses me...\

2019-05-23 08:23:26 UTC  

well it's easy to justify the position actually
animals are sentient, fetuses aren't

2019-05-23 08:25:08 UTC  

Sentient in they feel pain. Only a handful are any further sentient than basic instinct and pain. Fetuses can feel pain, and many of said vegans have no trimester restriction. I would argue fetus can achieve the same if not more Sentients than most animals.

Animals are better than Humans. I hate humans REEEEEEEEE

2019-05-23 08:26:06 UTC  

many of the animals we eat are quite advanced, being large mammals, so their sentience isn't or shouldn't really be a question

2019-05-23 08:26:07 UTC  

Especially well into second to third trimester

2019-05-23 08:27:38 UTC  

that is true about the later portions of pregnancy though

2019-05-23 08:27:42 UTC  

The issue is people conflate sentience and conciousness. 2 very different things. Yes all farm animals have sentience (ability to perceive the world around them, react and feel pain) but they dont have conciousness (higher brain function, forethought of death, or ability to put feeling over instinct)

2019-05-23 08:29:59 UTC  

A fetus can feel pain and show reaction to the environment by 20 weeks. The equivilant of a chicken. The only literal differences are the chicken is separate from the womb, and we eat the chicken.

2019-05-23 08:32:58 UTC  

By later term it has developed past most farm animals.

2019-05-23 08:34:12 UTC  

But even so. Saying one is "murder" and everyone should be forced to not eat meat, but the other isnt, is a huge contradiction.

2019-05-23 08:39:54 UTC  

I dont see Carl on that...

Also "women's equality party"? Lmao. UK doesnt have women's equality? Or is it a single issue party holdover like Brexit party will be?

That's probs a South East ballot

It's just 'London'

2019-05-23 08:41:42 UTC  

London

2019-05-23 08:41:45 UTC  

Sorry

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2019-05-23 08:44:36 UTC  

Also...why do you alls ballots look like class president ballots in school?