Message from @Fitzydog

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2019-06-02 22:09:03 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki Well we knew Saddam had chemical weapons way back in the 80s.

It was Netanyahu that specifically said he had nukes, and that was the narrative that was repeated

2019-06-02 22:10:52 UTC  

Not by the US gov. Nor was it a part of the hearing by Powell in the UN. The reasoning was the threats and the fact he had serine gas when he was supposed to have disposed of it, along with his resistance to inspectors.

2019-06-02 22:12:06 UTC  

That narrative was mostly MSM and I guess Netanyaho. The issue is it became the only thing synonymous with "WMDs" in the uninformed mind.

2019-06-02 22:13:02 UTC  

But the consent of the populace was granted by this bait and switch.

Nukes = threat to US
Chemical weapons = another third world asshole

2019-06-02 22:15:14 UTC  

Hell, why do you think they used the term 'WMD' so often?

2019-06-02 22:15:19 UTC  

That bait and switch wasnt the US Gov however. It was the MSM. Who shirked responsibility when they didnt have them, which was never claimed. The issue was Saddam signed a treaty to dismantle and dispose of all chem weapons.

2019-06-02 22:15:32 UTC  

Because it's a military term

2019-06-02 22:15:58 UTC  

nukes sells more newspapers then some boring chemical gas that will only affect the locals

2019-06-02 22:16:56 UTC  

The govt is always complicit in MSM falsities about govt actions.

They did not actively correct the record, and proceeded anyways with the knowledge that uninformed people thought we were stopping potential nuclear attacks on the US.

Hell, how many low level politicians were just as uninformed?

2019-06-02 22:17:28 UTC  

This is a blatant lie by omission

2019-06-02 22:18:00 UTC  

the msm was doing it work just perfectly as the government did want a war but did need an good excuse to do so. so why correct them

2019-06-02 22:18:02 UTC  

Or maybe the people were complicit as well

2019-06-02 22:18:10 UTC  

The UN meetings were televised

2019-06-02 22:18:29 UTC  

How many people watch CSPAN? 12?

2019-06-02 22:18:41 UTC  

Just like they are complicit with with the Muh Russia

2019-06-02 22:18:58 UTC  

Im willing to say less the 0,001% of the population did watch that

2019-06-02 22:19:10 UTC  

Ignorance isn't an excuse

2019-06-02 22:19:14 UTC  

You know full well most of these people are not at fault for parroting the Russian conspiracy

2019-06-02 22:19:25 UTC  

Jeeze, the nerve of you

2019-06-02 22:20:08 UTC  

The issue is. Even today when people are corrected they still go "Nu Uh" It is the same cock in mouth game people use still with the Russia bs

2019-06-02 22:20:10 UTC  

I never thought I'd hear Iraq war apologetics from you. Clown world for sure

2019-06-02 22:20:57 UTC  

Was I a fan of the war after going there? No. But will that mean I will let people spout ignorance because they couldn't be bothered to do research? No.

2019-06-02 22:21:29 UTC  

You can't look at this through a modern lens

2019-06-02 22:21:40 UTC  

Watching the mainstream news WAS research

2019-06-02 22:21:47 UTC  

There was no internet video

2019-06-02 22:22:19 UTC  

It pisses me off, because a lot of the people who still to this day spout the nonsense on the WMDs , even though it was MSM driven, tend to be the same ones admonishing the MSM for Russiagate

2019-06-02 22:22:33 UTC  

There were files...The UN records were public

2019-06-02 22:23:19 UTC  

Basically they fell for one con, while finger wagging another

2019-06-02 22:23:28 UTC  

Lots of stuff is public record.

An overwhelming majority of people aren't autistic enough to go to their library and dig up archives of current events in order to fact check the nightly news

2019-06-02 22:23:51 UTC  

What an asshole perspective Jesus christ

2019-06-02 22:24:00 UTC  

After 13 years?

2019-06-02 22:24:03 UTC  

the average person dont look up where he will get the most cheep insurance. you think he look up WMD in iraq. they just dont care

2019-06-02 22:24:14 UTC  

You realize people STILL claim the same bs

2019-06-02 22:24:16 UTC  

No, I'm talking about while it was happening.

2019-06-02 22:25:34 UTC  

Youtube has been around since before 2007

2019-06-02 22:25:49 UTC  

Videos online have been around for some time

2019-06-02 22:25:59 UTC  

This is about on par with blaming a rape victim at this point

2019-06-02 22:26:19 UTC  

And to hold the same view from start to finish of the war and after by this point is ignorance

2019-06-02 22:26:33 UTC  

Yes, I agree with that

2019-06-02 22:26:50 UTC  

Oh, I should have maybe commented - the point of the poster about Iraq is that if Boris Johnson trial goes ahead, it opens up pandora's box for anything and everything politicians have claimed...
...not necessarily a bad thing in my book, but it would suddenly make governements a lot less stable.

2019-06-02 22:28:07 UTC  

Youtube started 2 years after the war did. I'm sorry, but even if you held the same views by 2007 or even 2010. You did so via ignorance. And I have no patience for it.