People have known since then

I'm willing to bet that 90% of the population until 2015 took their MSNBC nightly news at face value and considered it factual

Sure, people watched other channels for other 'perspectives'

But that was usually for politics

Perspective = Slant/Bias

And the moment the News channels started opinion shows, people who werent ignorant knew

I know some elderly people that even to day believe anything the msm says as why will a journalist lie

@Nordhand Exactly

I know many elderly that will straight up say anchors are lying through their teeth

Oh, and the CSPAN viewerbase? Primarily the Elderly.

Most Elderly though tend to capselate with their political leaning. So Right leaning watch only fox, left only MSNBC and CNN ect

CSPAN is the only one both sides will usually watch

So let me get this straight: Support for the Iraq war is our own damn fault, and the media is not complicit in manufacturing consent, because it's everyone's fault for not being as redpilled as you were at that time. Right?

....No

That's what I've gathered so far

I've stated from the beginning that the MSM and US gov't are both at fault for the Iraq war because they knew FULL WELL that an overwhelming majority of the population had no idea what the hell 'WMDs' were, and assuming (under some media persuasion) that it was a fancy, legalese word for 'nuke'.

Support for the war at the time was granted. The original claims were Chemical Weapons, this is what the gov rolled out as the reasoning all the way up to the UN meetings. after that. The MSM is completely at fault for the missinformation, the PEOPLE are at fault for being complicit and taking it at face value. And only more so once the narrative changed to "BUT THEY DIDN'T FIND WMDs! THERE WERE NO NUKES!". Especially since that narrative changed when there was already a sizable video library online.

As for those who STILL believe the MSM spin is truth....are morons.

As well WMDs were used as a term for Chemical weapons in the past as well. During the reporting of the Iraq/Iran war.

People's memory isnt that long

It was repeated during Desert Shield/Desert Storm

As a threat to the troops there

And the imagery evoked with a term like 'weapon of MASS DESTRUCTION' is not associated with gas

Debatable. But either way the first claims by the US that WERE REPORTED, were equating WMDs and Chemicals. Nukes didn't become a focal point in the MSM until the war was well underway already.

And really didn't hit stride until it could be used as a bludgeoning weapon against the Bush Admin

Also FYI the IRaq/Iran war was in the 80s, and didn't end until 89.

But how were those claims relayed to the public?

Was it obvious that they meant chemical weapons? There's a very specific reason why people still equate the term WMD with nukes

We have people that still remember vietnam. It wasn't THAT far back from 03

Yes, I know when the Iraq/Iran war was. I mean that most people can't remember events from 6 months ago let alone 15 years

When it comes to the news that is

People still equate it, because of ignorance and lack of education. It was drilled so heavily as a weapon against the Bush Admin and the Republicans to attempt to deseat them.

Side note. Apparently Milo is pro deplatforming Crowder?

Hmm idk...

I distinctly remember as a kid being told that Iraq has nukes, and gathering as much from the news

"Why are we in Iraq?"

"Well, they have WMDs that could destroy us."

"or our allies" another part ignorant people ignored

Yeah, that too

https://youtu.be/1_3ndo_W_OY

Where's that screengrab from? Islamabad?

London <:pepe_smug:560207654207750154>

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