not at all out of character

If socialism or communism were any good, they could have overcome US opposition lmao

@Fitzydog how is that a shock? She was against mostly the trash of the run. Warren was the only 1 of the top 5 there.

@Tero yea but also advocated communism. While spouting a lie. Cuba has a homeless issue.

@EnderOctanus that's basically just might makes right tho

https://i.redd.it/azzgfgrths631.jpg

you will notice on the bottom left that that's actually a gate, not a full fence

they could literally just walk around

much like the current US border actually 😁

Well to be fair this was 1 year ago. She could have gotten access as a congresswoman.

But the real travesty here is a Puerto Rican without an ass. She needs to cry for the stairmaster she doesnt use.

that is pretty sad

Tulsi kicking ass, get rekt you dumb asses

Are there any conservatives in here that consider themselves democrat?

If there are, why do you stay Democrat? I don’t understand these numbers saying that 30% of democrats consider themselves conservative. Seems almost paradoxical

@Broo TulsiGang 2024 🇬🇧 🇺🇸 she "kicked ass" among the bottom of the pack candidates and the bottom of the "top 5" Warren. Not much of a win. Especially when she kept stammering and such. Also she overused "I'm a soldier" as if she was combat arms hoofing through Afghanistan instead of a Medical Officer in the Guard.

@Murrax9 it's because contrary to American belief "conservative" and "Liberal" arnt tied to Democrat or Republican.

It just has melded into seeming that way.

You can be Democrat and conservative on religion, economics, ect.

contrary to popular belief it's possible to be democrat without being a total fuckin retard

https://i.redd.it/vk803fpv7t631.jpg

kek

It is possible...but is more the exception than the rule these days...due to the DNC and lead dems pushing the same ones out over time.

@Broo TulsiGang 2024 🇬🇧 🇺🇸 what's the difference?

But why would you stay in a party if you disagree on the main premise of the party? Doesn’t conservative usually mean low government?

If we flipped it around I think It gets weirder. Could you imagine a progressive who was a republican? It simply could never happen

Why can the opposite happen?

Well, it happened

The American parties are monolithic. They are a collaboration of many sub groups. Hence why you have libertarian and tradcons in the same "party"

@Murrax9 i can actually see why, prior to now, you would have conservative democrats, specifically if they are atheist

Progressivism is seperate liberal and conservative. And sure there could be progressive Republicans. As all progressive is, is wanting change in society regardless of individual liberty

all the christ tards on the republican side would be a strong enough motivator 😃

Conservative just means "to conserve a status quo" whatever that might be to the person.

Man I hate the two party system

The fact that I have to chose between two groups that I have severe disagreements with sucks

*choose

Well it isnt really a 2 party system. Its multi party with a coalition prior to elections while UK for example coalitions post.

What would the difference be?

The key is to look at the individual candidates. Because they can be vastly different like tradcon vs libertarian in Republicans or demsoc and Corp dem I democrats

Wouldn’t a 2 party system also have a coalition prior to elections?

Not necessarily. You can have a pure 2 party system. But the US isnt technically that.litterally the only difference between US and UK is what side of the election the coalitions form

And in regards to that, the reason my question came up is that all of the candidates tonight seemed exactly the same if I’m being honest