Or just somewhere else?

@EnderOctanus no. There is an option for med advantage which is a private alternative but you pay the difference, and medigap which is all paid by the buyer

Closer to Tulsi

@Murrax9 depends on what status quo they are protecting.

But yea mostly Corp dem to Classical Liberal (though most of them have been pushed out)

They would be classical liberals.

Tulsi isnt classic lib

She is just an anti war corp dem

Who have joined the Republicans mostly

Which is rare but exists

Yeah that’s about where I fall. But I don’t agree with anyone on the democrats. Joe Manchin is the only guy I remotely agree with on that side

No I'm saying she's closest they showed to conservative

Do you think most people mean “someone who protects the status quo” when they say conservative?

Eh maybe on topics discussed, but even that she is....swishy washy. Since iirc she is pro amnesty.

@Murrax9 outside of the US yes

I mean inside the US

Well N America

Most people don't know how politics works lol

^

When the media polls democrats to see who is conservative

What do they mean by this

Right leaning

If they do it smart. They will ask conservation questions, that arnt bias

How close to the center are they of the baseline

But they dont so never get a straight answer

Man, politics has gotten so conflated and stupid

No

It always was.

It's mostly the education system

Collective stupidity.

And people not correcting the records

We see it more pronounced now because it's so easy to track it.

Just like the conflation of progressive and liberal

It just feels like no one knows what words mean anymore. Conservative seems to mean the same thing as republican. Liberal seems to mean democrat

Libertarian just means not wanting an authoritative state

That is by design.

The definitions are being actively fucked with to undermine understanding.

All of this seems so silly and like it’s a game or something. I honestly don’t even feel like voting in the next election

there are plenty of local politicians that aren't complete retards

The point is to muddle the terms to get the people who dont pay attention and just vote with people who identify the same

It is a game of sorts. But voting is your only piece on the board. No guarantee it will achieve anything, but not playing it ensures that anyway.