Message from @Fitzydog

Discord ID: 599693884108439564


2019-07-13 11:18:07 UTC  

I wonder if it's just as corrupt as the Clinton Foundation?
https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1149008015716233216

<:HonkHonk:566814473646768128>

2019-07-13 13:00:28 UTC  

"a night out drinking."

2019-07-13 13:00:30 UTC  

🤔

2019-07-13 13:04:21 UTC  

but is not drinking haram as fuck?

2019-07-13 13:11:33 UTC  

`The jury acquitted him in just 30 minutes of deliberations.

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lol wtf

2019-07-13 15:37:50 UTC  

This video is a bit revealing about European attitudes to the EU... they will vote for something they disagree with just to break a deadlock - so there's no reason for EU to change so long as people keep buckling on every single thing.

2019-07-13 16:18:24 UTC  
2019-07-13 16:36:59 UTC  

Hollywood faggots

2019-07-13 16:46:19 UTC  

Nasty ho

2019-07-13 19:27:31 UTC  

Whats poppin fellow discorders?

2019-07-13 19:27:33 UTC  
2019-07-13 19:27:39 UTC  

Really for some mad discording

2019-07-13 19:27:48 UTC  

<:super_edgy:426099058466095119>

2019-07-13 20:02:15 UTC  

@Jabba's Soapbox Ey dude a legit serious question, if you are in favour of freedom why do you deny certain freedoms from certain people? ie Immigrants have their freedom of movement restricted by institutions you support like borders.

2019-07-13 20:09:23 UTC  

Because I have the freedom to limit who has access to my property/community

2019-07-13 20:09:40 UTC  

Freedom of association is the most important freedom imo

2019-07-13 20:10:23 UTC  

If you don't have the freedom to choose who you associate with, then who cares if you have freedom of speech?

2019-07-13 20:14:22 UTC  

Freedom of speech only becomes important in a society where people are forced to interact with people against their will.

I.e. I could talk about racist shit all day long with people I want to be around, but I only have to defend that speech when I'm around people by force who want to attack me for that speech

2019-07-13 20:14:29 UTC  

So at what point do your freedoms infringe with other people's freedoms?

2019-07-13 20:14:41 UTC  

And how do you justify this

2019-07-13 20:14:56 UTC  

Give an example

2019-07-13 20:15:21 UTC  

As you said, the freedom of who has access to you property (*country*) vs the freedom of others to move

2019-07-13 20:15:28 UTC  

Freedom of association

2019-07-13 20:16:02 UTC  

But you don't have the freedom to move wherever.

You have zero right to impose yourself on a group of people who do not wish you have you there

2019-07-13 20:16:39 UTC  

Just because you can out the words 'freedom of' in front of something doesn't make it a right

2019-07-13 20:16:59 UTC  

Human rights establish a freedom of movement for all people

2019-07-13 20:17:13 UTC  

No they dont

2019-07-13 20:17:34 UTC  

Can you defend your right to move through the use of violence without infringing on someone else's rights?

2019-07-13 20:18:45 UTC  

The only rights you have are the things you are willing to defend through the use of force

2019-07-13 20:24:16 UTC  

I disagree with that. There are rights that are intrinsically given to all poeples and ought to be. Rights that have to be constantly defended by force to enforce them is falling into barbarism, where there is no established covenant or charter of laws. Laws are decided and established by societies and are followed. Furthermore, moving into another territory is not a violent matter.

2019-07-13 20:24:31 UTC  

It only becomes a violent matter when the people of the host country become hostile to the movement, where you see the rights of one group infringe the rights of another

2019-07-13 21:36:22 UTC  

@Fitzydog I know many people in Texas that want to freely associate with Mexicans. If freedom of association is so important for your why are you stopping theirs?

2019-07-13 21:37:04 UTC  

Also free speech past government censorship is a spook

2019-07-13 21:37:40 UTC  

You can never protect all speech equality because some speech stops other forms of speech

2019-07-13 22:47:01 UTC  

@StevenStevens Because many people in Texas do NOT want to freely associate.

In this case, I would advise splitting it up.

But also, this new group of Mexicans from down south were introduced into the state against the will of the original inhabitants of Texas starting in the 60s