No we don't have to reinvent the internet, we can regulate private companies who're involved with the the internet even more to protect people. We wouldn't need to do all those things if we just pass regulation that protects people's freedom of speech online. @Fitzydog

Oh, but that's a private company

No. The internet will evolve if we let it if we don't start regulating it. Freedom of speech on the internet is a tricky thing because it's not a public forum. It's a ton of small private companies working together.

*When does it become a public forum??* @Shurik

Some of the private companies that do shitty things will die and be replaced.

Doesn't matter, even private companies must be subject to law, all of them.

The internet is the closest thing we have to ancapitalism.

To which laws are you referring to? @Deleted User

Yeah, that's the problem

Freedom of Speech doesn't effect (affect?) Private companies and it shouldn't

I think access to the internet is the closest thing you have to a public forum. Or the closest thing you can call to a public forum

That's what you need to control. Access to the internet. Not the internet itself.

Does my point make sense? @Fitzydog

No

That shouldn't be a problem, unfortunately it is a problem because the "muh private company" excuse and the lobbyists working for those companies, buying out politicians of the highest bidder. @Fitzydog

Let's play the AnCapistan analogy game

Try to reltell my point first

To make sure we don't have a miscommunication

Anarcho-capitalism is trash.

Because I think we are talking past each other.

Anarchy of any sort is trash.

Where did you get that from what I said?

idk, this is a weak convo

If free speech is banned everywhere in "ancapistan", where is the "speaker's Corner" of the internet? What happens when companies start banning you as a customer just for visiting that place?

Someone creates a new business on the internet and voala you have said speakers corner

It's not all that hard or that expensive.

So you have to keep running and hiding?

Running or hiding?

It's just a url

And a server running said url.

I just said, other business will ban you for visiting that site

That's control of the access to the internet.

Also how will they know you accessed the site?

No, it's just a ban from a private company

Facebook has plugins on thousands of websites

Browser extensions

financial statements

How about you don't use there services?

But it's a *ubiquitous* service

It's just *there*

Like you can look up what companies are under the Facebook umbrella and not use them.