Message from @Shurik

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2018-08-07 02:03:54 UTC  
2018-08-07 02:04:23 UTC  

Do you have a link? @Deleted User

2018-08-07 02:04:41 UTC  

Because I don't think you really need a bill of rights for the internet.

2018-08-07 02:05:00 UTC  

Just because the internet will never be monopolized

2018-08-07 02:05:55 UTC  

One could make a good and convincing argument about how Google has a natural monopoly on searchs which in essence is a monopoly on the internet.

2018-08-07 02:06:09 UTC  

But I don't think it's a good argument.

2018-08-07 02:07:10 UTC  

On your point of "How about this? Free to use, and publicly accessible social media platforms should be hands off, and not censor, but paid ones can?"
How about we don't get government involved in social media? Like the government fucks everything it touches.

2018-08-07 02:07:22 UTC  
2018-08-07 02:07:31 UTC  

Well, you might as well have more legislation and regulations, because this is not okay.

2018-08-07 02:08:02 UTC  

I don't understand why republicans didn't have this bill passed.

2018-08-07 02:08:56 UTC  

"@Shurik (Aleksey) Facebook has your info, tracks your data, and now wants your bank details, even if you're not on the platform. Where's the choice to not use it then?"
You just don't use there services. It's not hard.
An interesting point would be if the banks buy the data from Facebook and use your private dms do disqualify you from a loan or something but that's not the point you were making.

2018-08-07 02:09:14 UTC  

Oh, we're talking now?

2018-08-07 02:09:29 UTC  

Other than the fact they're RINOs who pander to the dems and other libshits.

2018-08-07 02:11:11 UTC  

Seriously, why aren't you people supporting such actions? The free market isn't going to save us. Google, Facebook, Twitter, and other tech and social media giants are one big monopoly.

2018-08-07 02:13:05 UTC  

They aren't a monopoly that will last forever if they keep up with the shit they are doing. Have you seen what happened with Twitter and Facebook stock? We don't need the government to get involved in these things. Governments regulation raises the barrier to entry and supports and enforces monopolies.
I am worried about Google but that's a different story for a different reason. @Deleted User

2018-08-07 02:13:15 UTC  

So, youtube censors people. We know this.
What was the solution? A new platform! Enter, BitChute.
People want monetization and Superchats, so they tried to implement a payment system.
The asked around, and got a card service to team up.
After it was found that 'racists' were using the service, the card service cancelled the contract.
So they found a new service.
That NEW service then had *it's* contract severed with FUCKING VISA.

What, so now they have to invent a whole new credit card infrastructure as well?

At what point, is digital freedom of speech protected?

2018-08-07 02:13:43 UTC  

Do we have to reinvent the internet?

2018-08-07 02:15:27 UTC  

No we don't have to reinvent the internet, we can regulate private companies who're involved with the the internet even more to protect people. We wouldn't need to do all those things if we just pass regulation that protects people's freedom of speech online. @Fitzydog

2018-08-07 02:15:39 UTC  

Oh, but that's a private company

2018-08-07 02:15:44 UTC  

No. The internet will evolve if we let it if we don't start regulating it. Freedom of speech on the internet is a tricky thing because it's not a public forum. It's a ton of small private companies working together.

2018-08-07 02:16:02 UTC  

*When does it become a public forum??* @Shurik

2018-08-07 02:16:09 UTC  

Some of the private companies that do shitty things will die and be replaced.

2018-08-07 02:16:35 UTC  

Doesn't matter, even private companies must be subject to law, all of them.

2018-08-07 02:16:39 UTC  

The internet is the closest thing we have to ancapitalism.

2018-08-07 02:16:48 UTC  

To which laws are you referring to? @Deleted User

2018-08-07 02:16:50 UTC  

Yeah, that's the problem

2018-08-07 02:17:20 UTC  

Freedom of Speech doesn't effect (affect?) Private companies and it shouldn't

2018-08-07 02:17:58 UTC  

I think access to the internet is the closest thing you have to a public forum. Or the closest thing you can call to a public forum

2018-08-07 02:18:20 UTC  

That's what you need to control. Access to the internet. Not the internet itself.

2018-08-07 02:18:31 UTC  

Does my point make sense? @Fitzydog

2018-08-07 02:18:35 UTC  

No

2018-08-07 02:18:43 UTC  

That shouldn't be a problem, unfortunately it is a problem because the "muh private company" excuse and the lobbyists working for those companies, buying out politicians of the highest bidder. @Fitzydog

2018-08-07 02:19:03 UTC  

Let's play the AnCapistan analogy game

2018-08-07 02:19:19 UTC  

Try to reltell my point first

2018-08-07 02:19:25 UTC  

To make sure we don't have a miscommunication

2018-08-07 02:19:34 UTC  

Anarcho-capitalism is trash.

2018-08-07 02:19:42 UTC  

Because I think we are talking past each other.

2018-08-07 02:19:48 UTC  

Anarchy of any sort is trash.

2018-08-07 02:19:59 UTC  

Where did you get that from what I said?

2018-08-07 02:20:27 UTC  

idk, this is a weak convo