There will always be companies that just chose to not collect data or buy data and serve there clients that way. By selling privacy

Like Facebook isn't free. You are paying for using Facebook with your data.

So why don't the phone companies use your phone calls for data mining?

You can replace Facebook with another other app that's free and the statement is as valid.

They probably are.

Alright, then fuck it. I give up. Burn this shitpile to the ground.

Like nothing in this world is free.

I get that.

There's also a culturally agreed upon expectation of privacy, that has been eroded over the past decade

I don't think so.

Where are you from?

Russia. But for the past decade and a half USA

Well, the *US* has an agreed upon expectation of privacy

The internet has changed that

I think the 4th amendment needs an update

Agreed. Just a blanket "right to privacy"

But I'm not sure what that entails nor do I want to be the person who does that.

But private companies should be able to do whatever they want and let the market figure out which ideas are good

But for that to happen the media needs to die and be reborn.

Oh, they found out what's good alright

It just happens that what's good for them, doesn't line up with what's good for us.

The Market needs the media to keep certain things in check.

Us, them. Eh?

Google, Apple, Facebook, Twitter, Microsoft

Big data

Actions have consequences.

Nothing in life is free

People have forgot that.

This is a very cucked attitude, my friend

Like the Brits and their damn CCTV

Like the only one of those companies I'm truly scared of is Google/alphabet

*But it's a private company*

Just because there is a very good case to be made that it has a monopoly to access to the internet.

And that monopoly can't ever be broken up without the use of force. Aka the government.

Like my other problem is net neutrality and I don't actually know where I fall on that debate. Because again it's access to the internet b

What I don't like is the contract changes that happen on-the-fly, and wouldn't stand up in court under 'Reasonable expectations'

I mean I have a very small online profile

I mean Google still probably has a massive file on me.

One moment, you're enjoying a website that uses banner ads for income, the next, all the ads are gone, but your data is being sold to other companies, but you didn't agree because you 'signed' an older contract when you joined

I except these companies to do these things and I also understand why they do what they do.

@Shurik See, the average person DOESN'T expect that.