Message from @Fitzydog

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2018-08-07 02:37:25 UTC  

Russia. But for the past decade and a half USA

2018-08-07 02:37:45 UTC  

Well, the *US* has an agreed upon expectation of privacy

2018-08-07 02:37:55 UTC  

The internet has changed that

2018-08-07 02:38:21 UTC  

I think the 4th amendment needs an update

2018-08-07 02:38:39 UTC  

Agreed. Just a blanket "right to privacy"

2018-08-07 02:38:45 UTC  

But I'm not sure what that entails nor do I want to be the person who does that.

2018-08-07 02:39:25 UTC  

But private companies should be able to do whatever they want and let the market figure out which ideas are good

2018-08-07 02:39:36 UTC  

But for that to happen the media needs to die and be reborn.

2018-08-07 02:39:39 UTC  

Oh, they found out what's good alright

2018-08-07 02:40:04 UTC  

It just happens that what's good for them, doesn't line up with what's good for us.

2018-08-07 02:40:05 UTC  

The Market needs the media to keep certain things in check.

2018-08-07 02:40:15 UTC  

Us, them. Eh?

2018-08-07 02:40:33 UTC  

Google, Apple, Facebook, Twitter, Microsoft

2018-08-07 02:40:39 UTC  

Big data

2018-08-07 02:40:41 UTC  

Actions have consequences.

2018-08-07 02:40:47 UTC  

Nothing in life is free

2018-08-07 02:40:53 UTC  

People have forgot that.

2018-08-07 02:40:58 UTC  

This is a very cucked attitude, my friend

2018-08-07 02:41:16 UTC  

Like the Brits and their damn CCTV

2018-08-07 02:41:26 UTC  

Like the only one of those companies I'm truly scared of is Google/alphabet

2018-08-07 02:41:44 UTC  

*But it's a private company*

2018-08-07 02:42:08 UTC  

Just because there is a very good case to be made that it has a monopoly to access to the internet.

2018-08-07 02:42:33 UTC  

And that monopoly can't ever be broken up without the use of force. Aka the government.

2018-08-07 02:43:38 UTC  

Like my other problem is net neutrality and I don't actually know where I fall on that debate. Because again it's access to the internet b

2018-08-07 02:44:05 UTC  

What I don't like is the contract changes that happen on-the-fly, and wouldn't stand up in court under 'Reasonable expectations'

2018-08-07 02:44:33 UTC  

I mean I have a very small online profile

2018-08-07 02:44:54 UTC  

I mean Google still probably has a massive file on me.

2018-08-07 02:45:29 UTC  

One moment, you're enjoying a website that uses banner ads for income, the next, all the ads are gone, but your data is being sold to other companies, but you didn't agree because you 'signed' an older contract when you joined

2018-08-07 02:45:37 UTC  

I except these companies to do these things and I also understand why they do what they do.

2018-08-07 02:45:56 UTC  

@Shurik See, the average person DOESN'T expect that.

2018-08-07 02:46:09 UTC  

Greed and exploits of other humans is the default state of humanity

2018-08-07 02:46:57 UTC  

It doesn't mean we don't have a massive capacity for good. It's just our default state is not good. And it's much easier to slide down into evil than to do good.

2018-08-07 02:48:06 UTC  

We have contract law for a reason. If I'm living in a land of laws, I expect them to be enforced broadly.

2018-08-07 02:48:16 UTC  

If not, might as well not have it

2018-08-07 02:48:30 UTC  

Yes I want rule of law but some shitty behaviors shouldn't be illegal.

2018-08-07 02:48:39 UTC  

They should just be socially unacceptable.

2018-08-07 02:48:52 UTC  

Obviously that's not stopping anyone

2018-08-07 02:49:21 UTC  

This kind of data mining and exploitation should fall under the 2nd catagory. Though a good case could be made either way.

2018-08-07 02:49:37 UTC  

Google seems to have successfully privatized the communist revolution from the looks of it lol

2018-08-07 02:49:50 UTC  

Good for them.

2018-08-07 02:50:14 UTC  

It'll bite them in the ass soon enough assuming the government doesn't make them a monopoly.