If I go down to the bar, or a public park, I'm not being tracked and banned from entrance

I mean you are if you have your phone on you but that's not what you mean.

right

But the bar could do a facial recognition scan and than ban you for something you said or what was data mined.

It'd be like McDonalds not selling me lunch, because I made a purchase at a gun store last week, and their card service sold my data to McDonalds

Yea but McDonald's isn't a monopoly

So it's not a problem. They have massive competition for your service. So someone will serve you.

I'm being 'served', sure. But I'm sure as hell not in 'public' anymore. I'm ordering microwave meals in my dingy apartment lol

Online it's the same thing different form.

You could go to Wendy's

Or Subways or whatever

No, see, they all use the same card service though. Oh dang

I mean the store has a choice what card service to use and what to do with the information that the data they are given.

I could find some obscure restaurant that only uses cash, and all the employees where masks or some shit.

Anyways, the point it, there's no competition in silicon valley to go to

Or buy.

Or not buy

What. There is massive competition in Silicon Valley

You have an oligopoly of analytics and data.

Like Skype died in a matter of years and it was the go to chatting platform.

Like every silicone valley company is trying to keep your attention on there app

There will always be companies that just chose to not collect data or buy data and serve there clients that way. By selling privacy

Like Facebook isn't free. You are paying for using Facebook with your data.

So why don't the phone companies use your phone calls for data mining?

You can replace Facebook with another other app that's free and the statement is as valid.

They probably are.

Alright, then fuck it. I give up. Burn this shitpile to the ground.

Like nothing in this world is free.

I get that.

There's also a culturally agreed upon expectation of privacy, that has been eroded over the past decade

I don't think so.

Where are you from?

Russia. But for the past decade and a half USA

Well, the *US* has an agreed upon expectation of privacy

The internet has changed that

I think the 4th amendment needs an update

Agreed. Just a blanket "right to privacy"

But I'm not sure what that entails nor do I want to be the person who does that.

But private companies should be able to do whatever they want and let the market figure out which ideas are good

But for that to happen the media needs to die and be reborn.

Oh, they found out what's good alright

It just happens that what's good for them, doesn't line up with what's good for us.