Message from @Gen Kumon

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2019-08-20 16:54:38 UTC  

ermagerd

2019-08-20 16:56:07 UTC  

yea I call bullshit on it. no way they will get the power of a super high end PC for the cost of what the average consumer wants to pay for a console

2019-08-20 16:56:17 UTC  

Indeed.

2019-08-20 16:56:38 UTC  

Not to mention some leaks from fairly reliable sources are pegging the CPU's clock speed at 2GHz.

2019-08-20 16:56:54 UTC  

So basically, laptop CPU speeds.

2019-08-20 16:57:53 UTC  

yea, sony dont have the money or the market console to get any CPU manufactory to sell them their high end CPU for a loss

2019-08-20 16:58:04 UTC  

And that's assuming they actually use the full power of the leaked specs rather than downclocking like Nintendo did with the Switch to save on heat and power.

2019-08-20 16:58:26 UTC  

yea as all consoles have shit cooling

2019-08-20 16:59:34 UTC  

Indeed. Even 2GHz is going to pump out way more heat than any previous console, with eight cores. They'll need, well, desktop grade cooling for that. So either jet-engine loud, or like, double the size of current gen consoles to fit the cooler.

2019-08-20 17:00:39 UTC  

And it'll be power hungry as hell too. Not going to be room for a powerful enough integrated PSU, most likely, at the current size. So again, either PC sized, or external power supply.

2019-08-20 17:01:10 UTC  

true. it a reason why most high end PC are the size they are

2019-08-20 17:01:22 UTC  

They *might* manage with a laptop style power brick, at best.

2019-08-20 17:01:27 UTC  

and the tiny ones you can cook bacon on

2019-08-20 17:01:32 UTC  

So not...massively inconvient, but notable.

2019-08-20 17:02:11 UTC  

All you have to do is look at gaming-grade laptops to see all the design problems they'll have to face.

2019-08-20 17:02:30 UTC  

The higher end ones require *two* normal laptop power supplies to run.

2019-08-20 17:02:45 UTC  

And are *loud*.

2019-08-20 17:02:55 UTC  

it a reason why they are a massive heavy brick that you can use as a apartment stove on the side

2019-08-20 17:05:36 UTC  

Not to mention, projected release dates for this range from Summer to Winter of 2020. The tech will be a generation old by then.

2019-08-20 17:06:05 UTC  

PCs will be preparing for DDR5 at that point.

2019-08-20 17:06:48 UTC  

but the sad part is that console is the reason why most brand new tech is not that used in PC games

2019-08-20 17:07:39 UTC  

Eh, sorta kinda. Frankly, a lot of the issue the last few years has been general tech stagnation, mostly because AMD wasn't offering any real competition to Intel or Nvidia.

2019-08-20 17:07:51 UTC  

They finally stepped up their game, and now all three are starting to move again.

2019-08-20 17:08:03 UTC  

competition is always good

2019-08-20 17:08:08 UTC  

Exactly.

2019-08-20 17:08:42 UTC  

Intel got to sit on their asses basically just tweaking existing CPU designs for years on end, and Nvidia, while progressing decently in power, jacked up their prices.

2019-08-20 17:09:00 UTC  

Because if you wanted top end GPUs, you HAD to buy from Nvidia.

2019-08-20 17:09:26 UTC  

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2019-08-20 17:11:48 UTC  

But yeah, things are looking up this generation. Zen 2 actually has decent performance, if still a tad shy of Intel's 9th gen Core chips. AMD also has a good upper-mid tier graphics card at a decent price, and Intel is getting ready to *finally* release 10nm CPUs, first in laptops, then in a year or two on desktops, and are also preparing to enter the graphics card market.

2019-08-20 17:12:11 UTC  

And a new faster memory standard is about to be released in the same timeframe.

2019-08-20 17:12:27 UTC  

AMD returning as the good cheaper alternative for intel is good news

2019-08-20 17:12:46 UTC  

Ayp. And Intel entering into the GPU game is going to push both AMD and Nvidia.

2019-08-20 17:13:27 UTC  

There have been occasions where Nvidia and AMD/ATI have basically played games with the market to maximize profit for both.

2019-08-20 17:13:37 UTC  

Intel don't play that game. Intel wants all the money for Intel.

2019-08-20 17:13:58 UTC  

Intel will bleed Intel if it means bigger loss of blood for AMD and Nvidia.

2019-08-20 17:14:50 UTC  

and Intel have a lot of recuses to pull from they can keep it up a long time if they wants

2019-08-20 17:14:58 UTC  

well, its gonna take a while, iirc its first focusing on professional applications

2019-08-20 17:15:34 UTC  

True, but it's still going to push AMD and Nvidia. They use the same base hardware for their Quadro/FirePro cards as for their general consumer cards.

2019-08-20 17:15:50 UTC  

So a lot of the competition in that space will still push development for gaming cards.