wtf is wrong with you ?

stop goal posting

There were 2 powers in the entire middle east before the europeans came in

Ottomans and Safavids

Ottomans has several periods of massive internal instabilty

Europeans*

Stable = 2 generations without a major internal rebellion

If a country lasts 50 years without a major regime change and a shattering of internal governance, it is stable

2 genrations stable before the white nigs came
ALSO JAYJS: you cant be stable for more then 100 years

If it lasts 100 years, it is remarkably stable

it cant

50 years... ok so the Ottomans weren’t stable

because we are humans

we are sinful

We are not machines

Prussia took on Austria
Bavaria
 Saxony
Hanover
Württemberg
Hesse-Kassel
 Baden
Hesse-Darmstadt
 Nassau
Saxe-Meiningen
Reuss-Greiz
 Schaumburg-Lippe
Frankfurt
Liechtenstein
And won

we crave blood and soil of others

@JayJS you keep ignoring the fact that we are humans

38000 prussian casulties to 133,000 austrian led casulties

There were many periods of internal stability for longer than 50 years

Then the Prussians made friends with Austria, like two boys bonding after a bar fight

like the 100 year wars with the english and france

@JayJS long story short, we aint like you

Commie

I don't like eternal unilateral condemnation of the middle east

It can return to stability if we stop fucking with it

I firmly believe that

Look at Iran before the revolution

Look at Afghanistan before Taliban

On the road to westernization and secularism

Which period would that be? The interregnum, the revolts in the eastern territories, the revolts in the Balkans, the economic destabilization of the period after the Americas were discovered, the Jannisary Uprising?

But because they were allied with Russia, US didn't care and fucked them

Balkans are not middle east

This is going everywhere, anyways. Claiming the middle east has been Stable till the late 19th century is simply a ridiculously laughably statement. For like 95% of the time only the vast majority of Persian rulers had a society, a very free one mind you, they did not oppress anyone for the most part. There were bad/retarded rulers but they went away real quick.

The vast vast majority of the people not included within the Persian Empire have always been mindless savages with their backwards beliefs running tyrannical governments through the regime.

Again niggas have been living in the region for more than 3 thousand years at this point. Blaming the freaking US or any western powers for the dogshit that is the middle east is crazy. No one is denying that in recent times they have only made things worse but still you're initial statement regarding stability is insane.

and late 16th, 17th, 18th and early 19th century

The only time the Ottomans were stable was when they were winning a war against Austria

> 18th

Nope

Stable in their Anatolian and Levantine regions

that's the middle east parts

Rumelia is not middle east

> early 19th

Nope