But like you

I don't at all drink often anymore

I'm able to control it like it's nothing now

Same with smoking

5L a day, Jesus holy.

yeah i had a few bad/embarrassing experiences and i finally got tired of the hangovers, so one day i just stopped

@Chloé Adsolution My drinking is what i used to get off smoking lol, I transitioned from smoking all the time and drinking sometimes, to only drinking every day, to eventually only drinking every month or every few months and only smoking a couple of times a year (like new years).

and even when I drink now, the few times I do, I don't really drink to get drunk

I just get tipsy and it's good enough for me

most of the time

I pretty much only drink to get drunk

i started just drinking every now and then with friends, and then it slowly built over several years to the point where i was just drinking alone, and watching youtube, dark times man, dark times

Yeah, that's really shitty.

Once you get to the point where you're doing it yourself everyday doing, well, exactly that, it's terrible.

it's so gradual that you dont really notice you have a problem until you really have a problem

That was my weed experience

Usually related to depression or anxiety

self treatment

Mine was weirdly quick though, I started to fall into that pit, wallowed in it, and came out of it within the span of 2-3 months.

thats good

I had this ritual where every night after I got home from work I'd smoke a cigarette then get high, then a few hours later smoke another then get higher, then smoke another then get higher, then sleep and repeat

When I was drinking every single day or smoking every single day at points, it wasn't to get drunk really it was to get back to the base level of what had become the new "normal" for me.

I haven't had a single cigarette since I pulled out of that

It felt like me being drunk or high was my natural state

and sober was unusual

yeah i know what that is like @Ϻ14ᛟ

i still need to quite cigarettes

I luckily never felt that

I always found tobacco to be the easiest thing for me personally to just give up because it had no real altering affects like weed or alcohol

For me it was just trying to recapture the magic of this one night I had with it a while ago, every single night, and continuously failing and trying again, for months straight, and I totally ruined it for myself.

@Chloé Adsolution I had a bad weed habit too, and then i stopped smoking weed and a year late got into the alcohol. I never really got back into weed, it made me too paranoid

I feel like the negative effects are very downplayed nowadays

of weed

yeah

Definitely

everyone knows how bad alcohol and tobacco is

It went from the bad sides overplayed or made up

to the downsides being downplayed

alcohol did nothing wrong

But a lot of the downsides are very person to person

Say you have an anxiety disorder