@radeon It's not their kid, and they're raising a growing mind in an environment that it's not supposed to be fostered in

Don't you think two dads is better than living in a foster home for your life?

Because foster home kids have some of the highest crime and drug abuse rates

ok, imagine two fathers trying to raise a "daughter", how the fuck can they sympathise or give proper support to it? and vice versa

Because they literally aren't raised by anyone really

that argument sucks because there are plenty of straight couples on a list to adopt

How feminine are the fathers

lol

And why do we have a foster home ssytem?

gay so pretty fem, jk they are still men

They can sympathise with girls then, other than periods

Fucking soy boys

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Because women aren't a different species. I don't expect it would be terribly different from daughters raised by single fathers. Not ideal, but not worth denying rights to anyone.

@radeon So you're not a gender realist?

also two dudes don't just get a kid because they want one. people dont have rights to children in that way

I think you are denying the reality of gender based parenting

not all gays are overtly immasculine, me for instance

Furry tho

no, but you are a furry

yeah no furry should be allowed within 100m of children

@radeon sounds like you're a post-mdernist shill

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If my father were a furry, I'd off myself

I'm a gender realist but that doesn't mean I would deny people the ability to have a family simply because it's not in an ideal situation.

but they dont have a right to a family if they cant produce their own children

@radeon You make it seem like there AREN'T other, better family situations for these kids

Nobody answered my question, which is preferable, gay parents or no parents?

As it is we have far more foster kids than we do married gay couples

what do you guys think of those degenerates who got `U` put on their child's birth cert.? This is lgbt bollocks to the extreme

@Deleted User ... so infertile women shouldnt be able to adopt?

@radeon And why is that? Go look it up.

The adoption system in the US is rigged as hell

Yea

@NightOwl she should be able to if she is with a man who will stay with her for the next 15-20 years

they can, but they dont have a right to it like free speech

That seems awfully arbitrarily @redd

It's arbitrary to require that the adoptive family be a solid one?

Also why do you think you or anyone else should have the ability to decide who gets to have a family or not?

@radeon oh yes, it is not a practical law because you can't prove that a couple will stay together, but it is a system you could use prediction with

adoption is for the child, not because "I wanna be a mommy, I demand a baby"