Message from @NightOwl

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2018-04-03 02:31:14 UTC  

Reason based doesn't mean collectivist lol

2018-04-03 02:31:20 UTC  

@Deleted User No, by objective morality, it means that there may indeed be a 'Universal Ethic' that's based in biological behavior

2018-04-03 02:31:32 UTC  

depends on the axioms of that morality

2018-04-03 02:31:42 UTC  

Yup^

2018-04-03 02:31:43 UTC  

some cultures are just bad though, that doesnt mean others dont have a better standard closer to objectivity

2018-04-03 02:31:50 UTC  

Y'all need more Jordan peterson

2018-04-03 02:32:27 UTC  

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! if you believe that old people should not have the right to vote, I invite you to throw yourself off of a cliff. People like them died fighting for your rights to even debate like this. Now stfu and let's drink tea

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/430555152202596363/pepe_rage.jpg

2018-04-03 02:32:33 UTC  

so his postulated universal ethic is :

Try to win the overal set of games, instead of just the current one

2018-04-03 02:32:37 UTC  

It means not killing someone because you know their friends will kill you, not because sky daddy told you so

2018-04-03 02:32:49 UTC  

🍵

2018-04-03 02:32:53 UTC  

Rescue your 2 gay dads from the whale

2018-04-03 02:33:14 UTC  

Wouldnt reason just say that is why you kill their friends to

2018-04-03 02:33:20 UTC  

Preemptively

2018-04-03 02:33:24 UTC  

<:Szechuan_Stalin:379099505607573534>

2018-04-03 02:33:33 UTC  

I never said old people shouldn't have the right the vote I'm saying that they would be denied the right by the same logic you used to deny it to young adults

2018-04-03 02:33:33 UTC  

And send them to gulag

2018-04-03 02:33:55 UTC  

listen to this please, gay lords

2018-04-03 02:33:56 UTC  

@radeon No, because kids haven't EARNED their vote yet

2018-04-03 02:34:29 UTC  

Who gets to decide when you "earn" a legal right, which is a misnomer

2018-04-03 02:34:30 UTC  

and how do you earn the right to vote?

2018-04-03 02:34:41 UTC  

Service to your nation

2018-04-03 02:34:45 UTC  

lmao you just don't understand what a right is if you believe that

2018-04-03 02:34:53 UTC  

or accepting responsibilities

2018-04-03 02:34:54 UTC  

ok well you can serve at age 16

2018-04-03 02:35:03 UTC  

when you are legally responsible for yourself?

2018-04-03 02:35:12 UTC  

^

2018-04-03 02:35:19 UTC  

@Fitzydog unironically advocating for starship troopers style autocracy

2018-04-03 02:35:30 UTC  

When you can defend your family and community, and nation

2018-04-03 02:35:39 UTC  

REMEMBER - SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP

2018-04-03 02:35:42 UTC  

It's not autocratic

2018-04-03 02:35:52 UTC  

Read the book, faggot

2018-04-03 02:36:02 UTC  

📖 🏳️‍🌈

2018-04-03 02:36:08 UTC  

So perfect system state level everyone votes, House of Representatives only tax payers in that district, senate appointed by the state govenors and confirmed by state congress, president only those who have served

2018-04-03 02:36:20 UTC  

So you unironically we should deny rights to people because they didn't serve?

2018-04-03 02:36:29 UTC  

You're aware that's why Sparta fell right?

2018-04-03 02:36:33 UTC  

It limits citizenship to those who actually WANT to participate, and then demonstrate they have the capactiy to do so

2018-04-03 02:37:06 UTC  

Why?

2018-04-03 02:37:09 UTC  

It makes no limitations as to the qualifications for volunteering, other than age

2018-04-03 02:37:31 UTC  

How does that help anyone? Youre just creating a class divide.

2018-04-03 02:37:50 UTC  

Citizens vs non-citizens