Preemptively

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I never said old people shouldn't have the right the vote I'm saying that they would be denied the right by the same logic you used to deny it to young adults

And send them to gulag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcRfzpw9eWc

listen to this please, gay lords

@radeon No, because kids haven't EARNED their vote yet

Who gets to decide when you "earn" a legal right, which is a misnomer

and how do you earn the right to vote?

Service to your nation

lmao you just don't understand what a right is if you believe that

or accepting responsibilities

ok well you can serve at age 16

when you are legally responsible for yourself?

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@Fitzydog unironically advocating for starship troopers style autocracy

When you can defend your family and community, and nation

REMEMBER - SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP

It's not autocratic

Read the book, faggot

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So perfect system state level everyone votes, House of Representatives only tax payers in that district, senate appointed by the state govenors and confirmed by state congress, president only those who have served

So you unironically we should deny rights to people because they didn't serve?

You're aware that's why Sparta fell right?

It limits citizenship to those who actually WANT to participate, and then demonstrate they have the capactiy to do so

Why?

It makes no limitations as to the qualifications for volunteering, other than age

How does that help anyone? Youre just creating a class divide.

Citizens vs non-citizens

Also add a 3rd area of congress that the deputy governor represents his state if 33percent vote no the bill is killed before it goes to the presidents desk

Because the fundamental basis for democracy is that the citizens crete it in exchange for a responsibility to it

Democracy is gay

it's called a state

Republicanism

would you deny someone studying to be a doctor the right to vote but you would grant it to a cook in the military?

I said service

What problem are you actually trying to solve? Because everything you've pointed at so far boils down to "let's deny voting rights to demographics that disagree with me"

Not military

I am asking you to serve your country for 2 years

Military

I want to limit the voting potential from bad actors manipulating the public into a position