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2018-04-03 02:39:50 UTC  

***What problem does this solve?***

2018-04-03 02:39:53 UTC  

no matter what

2018-04-03 02:40:12 UTC  

It gives by in to the system

2018-04-03 02:40:17 UTC  

Want me to answer this?

2018-04-03 02:40:32 UTC  

yes

2018-04-03 02:40:35 UTC  

"bad actors manipulating the public" is poisoning the well. That is entirely your opinion.

2018-04-03 02:40:40 UTC  

you guys are getting hot headed over this

2018-04-03 02:40:52 UTC  

Alright here goes, stay tuned

2018-04-03 02:41:30 UTC  

Stay tuned for autism?

2018-04-03 02:41:31 UTC  

The argument for this was that the responsibility of voting should be reserved for those who have demonstrated an understanding of individual sacrifice for the greater good, i.e. voting is not about getting something for myself but about getting something for everybody else

2018-04-03 02:41:44 UTC  

This is why

2018-04-03 02:41:51 UTC  

Duty

2018-04-03 02:42:03 UTC  

To have rights you must understand duty

2018-04-03 02:42:12 UTC  

The stratocratic system limits citizenship rights to individuals ABLE BODIED OR NOT, who have shown a commitment and a desire to participate in the democratic system.

2018-04-03 02:42:24 UTC  

You're simply choosing groups who hold opinions or do things you disapprove of to deny voting rights to. This is based entirely on your own personal opinions about what is and isn't beneficial, not to mention the fact that you have absolutely no argument for doing any of this

2018-04-03 02:42:36 UTC  

Strawman

2018-04-03 02:42:58 UTC  

I just posted the argument

2018-04-03 02:43:17 UTC  

your duty is lesser than mines

2018-04-03 02:43:17 UTC  

And freedom depends on those willing to die for it or it goes away

2018-04-03 02:43:33 UTC  

I piss on your "duty"

2018-04-03 02:43:41 UTC  

autism is lurking and ready to strike at any moment...

2018-04-03 02:43:46 UTC  

No service no rights it always true

2018-04-03 02:44:01 UTC  

Dont fight for freedom and you lose it

2018-04-03 02:44:04 UTC  

The service portion is service in every. single. area. of the federal system.

You can be a desk clerk for all I care.

The point is, is that you had a desire for patriotism, because you wanted to contribute, or to change an injustice through to right means.

2018-04-03 02:44:11 UTC  

Greater good fallacy plus completely arbitrary distinction between who is or isn't allowed to be represented by voting

2018-04-03 02:44:33 UTC  

No it is looking for those who dont want to leech off the system

2018-04-03 02:44:53 UTC  

The problem of democracy is something james madison talked alot about

2018-04-03 02:45:11 UTC  

I fucking hate discord sometimes. I answer the god damned question over 3 comments, and people just move on past yelling at each other.

2018-04-03 02:45:11 UTC  

If you do not have strong individuals the system fails

2018-04-03 02:45:36 UTC  

Just because you aren't "contributing", which is again ***your opinion and based on a sweeping generalizarion***, does not count as an argument for why we should deny rights to millions of people based on ***your*** opinions

2018-04-03 02:45:50 UTC  

@Fitzydog copy paste bro

2018-04-03 02:45:57 UTC  

The strength of the wolf is the pack the strength of thepack is the wolf

2018-04-03 02:46:09 UTC  

Would you like to live in an islamists fantasy ideal state? Why should anyone have to live in your Utopia?

2018-04-03 02:46:19 UTC  

Discrimate again people who serve?
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2018-04-03 02:46:25 UTC  

The service portion is service in every. single. area. of the federal system.

You can be a desk clerk for all I care.

The point is, is that you had a desire for patriotism, because you wanted to contribute, or to change an injustice through to right means.

2018-04-03 02:46:32 UTC  

Because absolute democracy will always fail

2018-04-03 02:46:46 UTC  

Which is why we are a representative republic

2018-04-03 02:46:48 UTC  

The stratocratic system limits citizenship rights to individuals ABLE BODIED OR NOT, who have shown a commitment and a desire to participate in the democratic system.

2018-04-03 02:47:26 UTC  

should we implement that?

2018-04-03 02:47:38 UTC  

It'd be easy actually

2018-04-03 02:47:48 UTC  

Which is why land owners started off with the right to vote