Message from @Fitzydog
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@Fitzydog Okay so you are arguing that without the police a government can function legally by protecting citizen rights in courts, right?
have yall been converted?
Remove paddy scum!
who said classical liberalism was communism?
@ᚴᚬᚾᛁᚾᚴ ᚱᚢᚦᚴᚨᚱ (Hrothgar) Yes, in that case it would be an arbitration between two parties based on violation of rights from one to the other
Well I would agree to an extent but how about a state militia in place of police intervenes?
@ᚴᚬᚾᛁᚾᚴ ᚱᚢᚦᚴᚨᚱ (Hrothgar) Police technically aren't necessary
They need not to be paid by the government.
That's my point
Hmm, but there may be some problem there. What shall regulate the state militia to observe the laws?
If not their paycheck.
Just lynch the undesirables my dude
If everyone's armed.....
lol In my state of Oregon, there's an entire county without a police force. Just the court
It may soon erupt in chaos over trivial issues without an institution of power
They've got a sheriff to drive a guy to court lol
That’s not strange
It can operate well with small governments, yes
It’s be strange if there was neither a police nor a sheriff
Sheriffs are elected officials though
@ᚴᚬᚾᛁᚾᚴ ᚱᚢᚦᚴᚨᚱ (Hrothgar) What situation is police intervention necessary?
As soon as criminals organize into... an organized crime organization... you, as an individual, are outgunned.
For example in case of a property dispute one civilian recruits an army of 40 men from his own money and mounts an assault on a single guy who has not yet recruited his own army.
Yeah
@DanielKO Your whole society and town should be an organized Civil organization
What if they choose to be neutral?
Then the natural right of that guy has been forfeited by default.
These things actually happen a lot in my land.
Well your land is still ran by savages, so...
In villages semi feudal men often can do that to one man
That's a great idea. We should all organize into a civil organization. Some people will be in charge of maintaining peace, they'll be trained into the use force, about laws, etc. We'll call them not-the-police.
Then the rest of the people can worry about other things in their life.
We are not talking about the west alone are we?
@DanielKO lol yeah, I was explaining how police force is delegated from the populace
I am totally with that but the government or an organization needs to regulate the militia
@ᚴᚬᚾᛁᚾᚴ ᚱᚢᚦᚴᚨᚱ (Hrothgar) Who regulates the regulators?
Through payment and make it their job.
The public through legislations and a perfectly working democratic system.
The public can regulate the regulators by deposing them through elections.
"perfectly working democratic system." gonna have to stop you right there bud...