Message from @M4Gunner

Discord ID: 432786793230761984


2018-04-09 06:07:15 UTC  

and just shoot me if that sounds like ass

2018-04-09 06:07:36 UTC  

have you studied business models?

2018-04-09 06:09:12 UTC  

No I haven't studied business models, but I've seen a few episodes of shark tank, so i'm basically an expert.

2018-04-09 06:09:24 UTC  

maybe you should hire a consultant 😄

2018-04-09 06:09:58 UTC  

I'm not looking to make this idea lol

2018-04-09 06:10:42 UTC  

youtube still isnt profitable to google

2018-04-09 06:10:58 UTC  

few people can afford to lose so much cash

2018-04-09 06:12:29 UTC  

I hope someone will rise to fill the gap and bring me daily ad-subsidized nazi pugs

2018-04-09 06:13:56 UTC  

I think if you give creators control over what content they place behind a paywall and what to just put out for free, then there they decide what is best for them. Kinda like how Crowder has mug club but he still puts out free content.

2018-04-09 06:15:23 UTC  

I think youtube could easily be profitable, which makes me curious as to why they are not

2018-04-09 06:15:44 UTC  

i dont think people at google are too bright

2018-04-09 06:15:53 UTC  

It may just be more complicated than we think

2018-04-09 06:16:17 UTC  

it is

2018-04-09 06:16:22 UTC  

always is

2018-04-09 06:16:49 UTC  

The only theory I can even consider at the moment is, as a component of a larger entity, they're using it as a lever to either manipulate larger markets, ensuring that they're indirectly funneling people into using more of their products, or they're using it in order to jump through various tax loopholes by having a company (or companies) under their umbrella that aren't, on the books at least, turning a profit

2018-04-09 06:16:54 UTC  

goog take a lot of blind stabs in the dark with new projects

2018-04-09 06:17:22 UTC  

they practically cancelled google glass before realizing people might like it for actual WORK.
kms

2018-04-09 06:18:02 UTC  

Well, they did hire someone five or so years back to reign in their silly spending

2018-04-09 06:18:18 UTC  

Then people were complaining they were paying them too much in order to do so 🤣

2018-04-09 06:19:35 UTC  

The thing is, youtube has a constant stream of videos being uploaded. A subscription based thing like we are talking about would more than likely only have serious creators who are looking to make money, not just random family vactions and cat videos. that is easier to make money off of than what youtube is now.

2018-04-09 06:20:12 UTC  

YT have min subscribers/views/watchtime to even monetize videos now

2018-04-09 06:20:40 UTC  

what about catering to a niche audience while growing the platform, then opening it up to general public once infrastructure is nice

2018-04-09 06:21:18 UTC  

Floatplane has some interesting ideas one might look at

2018-04-09 06:22:50 UTC  

It would probably start out with the people that got fucked over by youtube, and then who knows. you would really need to already have subscribers and a name for yourself to do well though, because the chances of people subscribing to you without knowing who you are is slim, especially if your videos are behind a paywall.

2018-04-09 06:24:36 UTC  

rich fucking cunt

2018-04-09 06:24:44 UTC  

Yeah and then others will want a platform with less rules/censorship, and more *modern* advertisers

2018-04-09 06:26:19 UTC  

I really think its a good idea to make creators pay for their files hosted

2018-04-09 06:28:26 UTC  

Minds.com has some interesting business model variance vs. twitter

2018-04-09 06:28:49 UTC  

I dont think the model we are talking about will ever overthrow youtube though, unless youtube just goes under on it's own. It can be an alternative for controversial creators, but it probably wont have normies using it, which may not be a bad thing.

2018-04-09 06:29:10 UTC  

Whats your killer app

2018-04-09 06:29:19 UTC  

you need something like South Park basically

2018-04-09 06:30:06 UTC  

something nobody can get anywhere else. you may have to sign an exclusivity deal with some talented creators

2018-04-09 06:30:34 UTC  

unfortunately I don't know anything about computers, otherwise I would probably be working on something.

2018-04-09 06:31:36 UTC  

well do you know economics, or have a lot of investment capital, or know a lot of geeks and a couple richkids?

2018-04-09 06:32:45 UTC  

If I had an idea worth while I'm sure I can find a way to pull it off, but the trick is to not get it ripped off.

2018-04-09 06:33:00 UTC  

part of the process really is, to troubleshoot every single problem that will arise one by one

2018-04-09 06:33:15 UTC  

yeah, I like doing that

2018-04-09 06:34:40 UTC  

dont worry about people stealing ideas if you cant implement them. anyone can think of the same ideas, few can implement. indeed within the first year people would copy you, much bigger companies maybe

2018-04-09 06:35:09 UTC  

the best thing would be for them to be seen as clones of the original, if the original survives amongst them

2018-04-09 06:36:06 UTC  

One of the trickiest things is convincing people to use it once you've built it, you would need to get a bunch of big people to want to use it. and it has to be "cool" otherwise people are just gonna say "fuck that it sucks"