Message from @NightOwl

Discord ID: 441031784755625992


2018-05-02 00:10:38 UTC  

But they say that IS capitalism

2018-05-02 00:11:59 UTC  

capitalism is a serious game. people suffer when they lose, they question its fairness

2018-05-02 00:12:12 UTC  

They also keep talking about racism. They paint a picture of society that i don't recognise

2018-05-02 00:12:23 UTC  

MILO says the best thing ever

2018-05-02 00:12:42 UTC  

something like "the system didnt screw you over, your parents did because theyre bad with money"

2018-05-02 00:14:21 UTC  

``They paint a picture of society that i don't recognise``
Yeah thats something i think about. There's this weird disconnect between the situation they pose to you and what you see when you step into the world. Something that sounds plausible, but in like a Ray Bradbury way

2018-05-02 00:15:24 UTC  

But people at risk have a limited perspective, as well as are looking for answers, and gauging their situation are failing to find any elsewhere

2018-05-02 00:15:45 UTC  

yea

2018-05-02 00:16:15 UTC  

theres a lot of different angles you could work tho. you can see i think about this one aspect a lot, what draws people into the hands of those who would make them puppets

2018-05-02 00:16:51 UTC  

if you asked how to stamp out commies in the university staff structure i could focus on just that, or some other angle

2018-05-02 00:18:02 UTC  

Oh. But let's assume I havent seen much of what you mention above @NightOwl , which is the available commie propaganda online, because i suppose i never ran into any

2018-05-02 00:20:06 UTC  

It does bring up a few Qs. Is communism becoming sexy in media?

2018-05-02 00:21:33 UTC  

All I have really seen is these protests

2018-05-02 00:21:33 UTC  

lol

2018-05-02 00:21:52 UTC  

It probably is becoming sexy

2018-05-02 00:22:08 UTC  

well socialism is

2018-05-02 00:22:09 UTC  

we need all our hardest rap niggas to step up and say ``communism is for faggots``

2018-05-02 00:22:34 UTC  

Socialism is not a dirty word in Britain like it is in America

2018-05-02 00:22:39 UTC  

most parties in Britain are socialists

2018-05-02 00:22:50 UTC  

and youd think all these celebs, since they like making money so much, would have a good incentive

2018-05-02 00:22:51 UTC  

I voted the other day and more than 50% of parties on my ballot were socialist

2018-05-02 00:24:02 UTC  

i think a lot of us here(USA) dont understand socialism unless they take poli sci, which teaches how awesome it is

2018-05-02 00:24:29 UTC  

but there is a risk that disciplines outside of politics and history could be taught in a socialist or communist way

2018-05-02 00:24:59 UTC  

like if in teaching business, writing, programming, you inject your own ethics

2018-05-02 00:25:15 UTC  

you have to understand people... knowing why capitalism works requires a lot of understanding.... advocating for socialism you just have to be told that the magic man will make things better.

2018-05-02 00:25:35 UTC  

can we dumb down the explanation for capitalism then

2018-05-02 00:25:57 UTC  

sure, i'll do something for you if you do something for me

2018-05-02 00:26:11 UTC  

i'll add i dont think people understand the dangers of *not* having it

2018-05-02 00:26:55 UTC  

nothing gets made without somebody doing something, you commanding to do something for you is socially incongruent

2018-05-02 00:27:15 UTC  

there are many definitions, mises used it in a free market sense which i am also akin to do. That is private property and a market economy

2018-05-02 00:27:17 UTC  

make the other guy real

2018-05-02 00:27:51 UTC  

we each make as much as possible with regards to our means subject to other people's wants and everbody wins

2018-05-02 00:28:40 UTC  

the intellectuals in Britain are starting to ditch the word socialism and just use the term post-capitalism

2018-05-02 00:28:42 UTC  

people dont realize the importance of *abstraction* of the commodity to a universal form (paper money)

2018-05-02 00:28:48 UTC  

they believe we are living in post-capitalism

2018-05-02 00:28:50 UTC  

lol

2018-05-02 00:29:00 UTC  

lol

2018-05-02 00:29:04 UTC  

no, but they know people have stuff

2018-05-02 00:29:22 UTC  

what would postcapitalism even be?

2018-05-02 00:29:27 UTC  

Will Self and Paul mason

2018-05-02 00:29:28 UTC  

@NightOwl they're delusional