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@M4Gunner they gotta clean their rooms

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idk

Free healthcare is great but the mentality isnt there in America

@M4Gunner With no prospects or capacity to orient themselves to a better life. And your shocked?

Or the 'virtuous people' as George Washington put it

Also yeah, I quite enjoy my free healthcare

German healthcare is finger-licking good~

This generation ar ethe first generation since the 50s that will less well off then their parents

We have free healthcare through charity

Home ownership, Social Mobility

Relying on charity is not the best of ideas

both down

@Ruggwain relying on government is not the best of ideas

Yeah it is the best idea

@Deleted User private exists

Nobody was out dying on the streets without care before Medicare and Medi-Cal

You pick state or private

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^ yeaahhh

There always will be people dying on the street and even shit Medicare reduced it

maybe they gave them beds to die in?

Relying on charity forces you to be a good person also

Or a waiting room chair at least

It doesn't really. It just punishes good people

@Ruggwain did you here m edi cal is being extended to illegals?

Relying on welfare punishes everyone

@Deleted User hence why it's shiiiiiit

Welfare is not healthcare m8

I actually would like to try a UBI and replace all welfare schemes

@Deleted User charity is difficult to uncouple from the bias of the person who made it. So the expectations on the user of the charity range from benign to abusrd to begin with.

^^

Universal basic income is a shit idea

So we should **force** people to help then?

Minimum wage is as far as UBI should go

Well when you have charities competing with each other, the best will rise to the top

@Deleted User yes

@Deleted User What good are they competing over?

@M4Gunner you know the UBI came from free market economists

@Ruggwain how about I force you to buy certain products?