Message from @SaltySwede

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2018-05-30 06:35:50 UTC  

and what logics were in place to enforce their decision to make such a choice?

2018-05-30 06:36:09 UTC  

The point is, if you took those two computers and restarted the senario with the exact same variables you'd get the same result

2018-05-30 06:36:32 UTC  

perhaps, but what if it was a different method of communication than these two decided upon?

2018-05-30 06:36:46 UTC  

It won't be

2018-05-30 06:36:55 UTC  

The same is true of people

2018-05-30 06:36:56 UTC  

can only say that when the test is in fact carried out

2018-05-30 06:37:01 UTC  

then you have a situation with a different set of variables. There is just way too many variables for us to control to fully understand whats going on

2018-05-30 06:37:08 UTC  

then lion, why are there so many different languages in the world

2018-05-30 06:37:10 UTC  

Actually, you can

2018-05-30 06:37:20 UTC  

Different variables

2018-05-30 06:37:57 UTC  

Mostly due to different programming as it happens

2018-05-30 06:38:13 UTC  

the point in my personal view is this, if two computers come up with a completely dissimilar logic of communication, then there is grey area with black and white sequences of logic and programming

2018-05-30 06:38:31 UTC  

and if that's the case, there is a possibility a computer could become so 'intelligent' that it'd become sentient

2018-05-30 06:38:43 UTC  

But that happens when systems generate their own programing with even minute variability or seed alteration

2018-05-30 06:38:52 UTC  

They already are sentient

2018-05-30 06:39:03 UTC  

You dont know what that word means

2018-05-30 06:39:15 UTC  

it's because we're non deterministic

2018-05-30 06:39:19 UTC  

sen·tient
ˈsen(t)SH(ē)ənt/Submit
adjective
able to perceive or feel things.

2018-05-30 06:39:25 UTC  

The simple matter is, we don't even understand what it is that makes humans self-aware. Its just a big guessing game right now. We could be 1 day or 100 years away from general AI

2018-05-30 06:39:27 UTC  

<:cleanyourroom:429612328192049152>

2018-05-30 06:39:28 UTC  

perception is only one section of sentience

2018-05-30 06:40:00 UTC  

if we speak purely of perception, then yes, all ai and algorythms are 'sentient' by that logic alone

2018-05-30 06:40:00 UTC  

lol

2018-05-30 06:40:25 UTC  

Just stop, you don't know enough about the subject to talk about it and I really don't have the time or energy to handhold you

2018-05-30 06:40:40 UTC  

*Vice* I stopped reading right there

2018-05-30 06:40:55 UTC  

it's up to you really what you wish to say and not say, i'm not holding you captive to my reasoning

2018-05-30 06:41:02 UTC  

ah shit

2018-05-30 06:41:17 UTC  

I mean sapient when I said sentient earlier

2018-05-30 06:41:35 UTC  

^ told you

2018-05-30 06:41:39 UTC  

Oh for fuck sakes @Deleted User

2018-05-30 06:41:43 UTC  

lol

2018-05-30 06:42:23 UTC  

Sentient is a rather meaningless qualifier

2018-05-30 06:42:37 UTC  

sapient specifically talks of being related to humanity. however i'm speaking more generalistically, if they can provide a similar personality to an animal, then that is sufficient to myself to consider them in some manner sentient

2018-05-30 06:42:40 UTC  

pretty much all animals are sentinet

2018-05-30 06:42:51 UTC  

doesn't necessarily mean it needs to be human specific

2018-05-30 06:42:54 UTC  

I swear my dick is sentinet sometimes

2018-05-30 06:43:01 UTC  

The problem with ai's is they can be engineered directly to fit a criterion

2018-05-30 06:43:06 UTC  

it certainly perceives and feels

2018-05-30 06:43:10 UTC  

therefore it's sentient

2018-05-30 06:43:21 UTC  

@muh_feelings You can make that argument