Message from @King Canuck

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2018-06-03 16:09:59 UTC  

exactly so you all now have some ammunition

2018-06-03 16:10:08 UTC  

I much prefer the idea that God is sort of a starting force, a first thought that sparked the universe, and whatever exists of it is so beyond anything that we could even begin to imagine that there's no point getting into wars over it

2018-06-03 16:10:20 UTC  

but even then, what proof?

2018-06-03 16:10:21 UTC  

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2018-06-03 16:10:24 UTC  

I mostly don't worry about it

2018-06-03 16:10:42 UTC  

most people assume i dont believe in a higher power

2018-06-03 16:10:48 UTC  

not true

2018-06-03 16:10:59 UTC  

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2018-06-03 16:12:17 UTC  

the word god imo has been contaminated over the years

2018-06-03 16:12:31 UTC  

sort of like the word "liberal" in the US

2018-06-03 16:13:22 UTC  

Actually a cool interpretation is how American Gods did Jesus

2018-06-03 16:13:31 UTC  

it's in a sort of "deleted scene" outside of the main story though

2018-06-03 16:13:34 UTC  

are you familiar with the book?

2018-06-03 16:14:00 UTC  

If not, whenever someone comes to America and is the first to worship their gods from back home, a version of that god comes to America, like a photocopy.

2018-06-03 16:14:28 UTC  

tbh i cant remember if grammy red me the new testament at bed time or not

2018-06-03 16:14:38 UTC  

some that are seen are an aging Czernobog, who must kill cows at a slaughterhouse as sacrifices to himself to stay alive, stuff like that

2018-06-03 16:14:45 UTC  

but i always like the story about samson

2018-06-03 16:14:54 UTC  

lemme continue here man, one train of thought at a time

2018-06-03 16:15:00 UTC  

the point is in a scene set sometime after the main story, the main character finds American Jesus

2018-06-03 16:15:11 UTC  

and asks him why he didn't weigh in in the conflict of the main story

2018-06-03 16:15:25 UTC  

Jesus says that because so many people believe that he is so many different things, he cannot do *anything*

2018-06-03 16:15:49 UTC  

Like he's being pulled by four horses, hun style.

2018-06-03 16:15:59 UTC  

my derp miss understood which book you meant

2018-06-03 16:16:07 UTC  

hah

2018-06-03 16:16:14 UTC  

but yeah, that's an interpretation of how that went down

2018-06-03 16:16:59 UTC  

**Aaronred Hetero#6572** was cleansed from the server.

2018-06-03 16:17:15 UTC  

bye

2018-06-03 16:18:23 UTC  

Found the bit

2018-06-03 16:18:24 UTC  

sorta

2018-06-03 16:18:32 UTC  

In an early draft, Shadow met Jesus briefly, and finds this incarnation of the Son of God to be caught between worshipers, his peaceful roots at odds with what modern America is trying to force him to be. (He also makes terrible wine.) It’s a very good scene, but it feels a little strange, and highlights the conscious choice Gaiman made to excise him from the final book. I think he made the right call. Still, the scene is fascinating and the philosophy of faith it offers is intriguing.

*“Have you thought about what it means to be a god?” asked the man. He had a beard and a baseball cap. “It means you give up your mortal existence to become a meme: something that lives forever in people’s minds, like the tune of a nursery rhyme. It means that everyone gets to re-create you in their own minds. You barely have your own identity any more. Instead, you’re a thousand aspects of what people need you to be. And everyone wants something different from you. Nothing is fixed, nothing is stable.”*

2018-06-03 16:18:35 UTC  

(from an article)

2018-06-03 16:19:07 UTC  

the scene is restored in the 10th anniversary edition, which I have.

2018-06-03 16:19:24 UTC  

I think it's a neat way to cover him.

2018-06-03 16:19:43 UTC  

But the original Jesus deity is apparently somewhere in the middle east, and nobody has really seen him in decaces.

2018-06-03 16:21:12 UTC  

ang on searching

2018-06-03 16:21:15 UTC  

wot

2018-06-03 16:22:07 UTC  

have you ever heard of the vril society?

2018-06-03 16:22:25 UTC  

Nope, enlighten me

2018-06-03 16:22:35 UTC  

very fascinating if you couple it with the story of samson

2018-06-03 16:23:18 UTC  

secret society of women whom believed hair was a sort of spiritual antenna

2018-06-03 16:23:40 UTC  

so they would never cut it and would literally have it dragging on the floor