Message from @Mercury
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Representative (not referendums) but representatives chosen by election
Nominated
Senators need to be appointed again
in some cases, I think you're getting in teh weeds
`freedom`
`all united towards a common goal`
so never.
Appointed by a group of elected reps
etc.
A push towards a absolute democracy is always bad
But all governments move left
even the fascists states that have existed
fascism is collectivist
The system at base is bounded or bracketed by electoral politics, elections, voters...
@Jek Porkins
As i said, fucking for virginity
Makes no sense
well its a matter of degree
That is true
Its fucking for babies
but it is inevitable
its goal oriented
I just disagree that the form of government can change that
And its important to see it as a reaction to leftist/marxists
the people must have self mastery for it to work
any republic that is
@Deleted User
It's not fucking for babies, it's giving up your freedom and individuality for a "greater good" that's not decided by you
did you decide the constitution, Homo?
"The foundation of Fascism is the conception of the State, its character, its duty, and its aim. Fascism conceives of the State as an absolute, in comparison with which all individuals or groups are relative, only to be conceived of in their relation to the State. The conception of the Liberal State is not that of a directing force, guiding the play and development, both material and spiritual, of a collective body, but merely a force limited to the function of recording results: on the other hand, the Fascist State is itself conscious and has itself a will and a personality -- thus it may be called the "ethic" State"
Stop pretending
No system is "decided by you"
get off it
No it was decided by divine providence
the problem with people pushing fascism or socialism, is they they fail to comprehend that their utopias can never exist. they are fantasies for movies and books.
Real life human beings in the real world do not do what you want them to do, and the more you tell them what to do, the harder it is to get them to do it.
Anyone who's raised kids knows that.
(thankfully not decided by YOU)
Well, so, you agree there is someone, a group, that decides...and its not you.
And its not demcoratic
(wasnt)
@Deleted User
Yeah, it's decided by me and millions of citizens.
The group who decides is is a group formed by elected officials
"now that we have the constitional system we can pretend it was all decdied by a Democratic Republic"
of course it wasnt decided that way
Someone told me to help a project on GItHub today, and when I went to go look at it, I saw a hammer and sickle flag and said "Not working with a commie."
It's not because I'm not directly involved in the process( which is impossible in any current nation) that I'm not responsible for it
it was directed by by various movements originating all the way to ancient Greece, and decided by a small group of white men.
Fascism just makes that fact more blatant