Message from @Mercury

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2018-06-04 22:37:28 UTC  

Representative (not referendums) but representatives chosen by election

2018-06-04 22:37:50 UTC  

Nominated

2018-06-04 22:38:01 UTC  

Senators need to be appointed again

2018-06-04 22:38:03 UTC  

in some cases, I think you're getting in teh weeds

2018-06-04 22:38:14 UTC  

`freedom`

`all united towards a common goal`

so never.

2018-06-04 22:38:16 UTC  

Appointed by a group of elected reps

2018-06-04 22:38:19 UTC  

etc.

2018-06-04 22:38:22 UTC  

A push towards a absolute democracy is always bad

2018-06-04 22:38:37 UTC  

But all governments move left

2018-06-04 22:38:58 UTC  

even the fascists states that have existed

2018-06-04 22:39:01 UTC  

fascism is collectivist

2018-06-04 22:39:03 UTC  

The system at base is bounded or bracketed by electoral politics, elections, voters...

2018-06-04 22:39:06 UTC  

@Jek Porkins
As i said, fucking for virginity

Makes no sense

2018-06-04 22:39:11 UTC  

well its a matter of degree

2018-06-04 22:39:21 UTC  

That is true

2018-06-04 22:39:23 UTC  

Its fucking for babies

2018-06-04 22:39:32 UTC  

but it is inevitable

2018-06-04 22:39:46 UTC  

its goal oriented

2018-06-04 22:40:07 UTC  

I just disagree that the form of government can change that

2018-06-04 22:40:15 UTC  

And its important to see it as a reaction to leftist/marxists

2018-06-04 22:40:19 UTC  

No, "Fucking for babies" is Amos Yee's worldview.

2018-06-04 22:40:20 UTC  

the people must have self mastery for it to work

2018-06-04 22:40:31 UTC  

any republic that is

2018-06-04 22:40:59 UTC  

@Deleted User
It's not fucking for babies, it's giving up your freedom and individuality for a "greater good" that's not decided by you

2018-06-04 22:41:16 UTC  

did you decide the constitution, Homo?

2018-06-04 22:41:22 UTC  

"The foundation of Fascism is the conception of the State, its character, its duty, and its aim. Fascism conceives of the State as an absolute, in comparison with which all individuals or groups are relative, only to be conceived of in their relation to the State. The conception of the Liberal State is not that of a directing force, guiding the play and development, both material and spiritual, of a collective body, but merely a force limited to the function of recording results: on the other hand, the Fascist State is itself conscious and has itself a will and a personality -- thus it may be called the "ethic" State"

2018-06-04 22:41:28 UTC  

Stop pretending

2018-06-04 22:41:34 UTC  

No system is "decided by you"

2018-06-04 22:41:36 UTC  

get off it

2018-06-04 22:41:42 UTC  

No it was decided by divine providence

2018-06-04 22:41:46 UTC  

the problem with people pushing fascism or socialism, is they they fail to comprehend that their utopias can never exist. they are fantasies for movies and books.

Real life human beings in the real world do not do what you want them to do, and the more you tell them what to do, the harder it is to get them to do it.

Anyone who's raised kids knows that.

2018-06-04 22:42:01 UTC  

(thankfully not decided by YOU)

2018-06-04 22:42:22 UTC  

Well, so, you agree there is someone, a group, that decides...and its not you.

2018-06-04 22:42:36 UTC  

And its not demcoratic

2018-06-04 22:42:39 UTC  

(wasnt)

2018-06-04 22:42:46 UTC  

@Deleted User
Yeah, it's decided by me and millions of citizens.

The group who decides is is a group formed by elected officials

2018-06-04 22:42:58 UTC  

"now that we have the constitional system we can pretend it was all decdied by a Democratic Republic"

2018-06-04 22:43:19 UTC  

of course it wasnt decided that way

2018-06-04 22:43:38 UTC  

Someone told me to help a project on GItHub today, and when I went to go look at it, I saw a hammer and sickle flag and said "Not working with a commie."

2018-06-04 22:43:53 UTC  

It's not because I'm not directly involved in the process( which is impossible in any current nation) that I'm not responsible for it

2018-06-04 22:44:09 UTC  

it was directed by by various movements originating all the way to ancient Greece, and decided by a small group of white men.

Fascism just makes that fact more blatant